Air Pac pilots invited to join EK
 

During a recent interview, Captain Thani Al Thani head of EK recruitment extended an invitation to all Air Pacific pilots to sent their applications to EK. "Tell them to apply..." were the words he used. He further added that things have gotten a lot better since he assumed the position about a year ago and they should apply, or update their CV's. For those with NG, 76, 74 time the courses will be shortened because of the similarities with the 777. Abbreviated 777 courses are the being conducted and with 1 aircraft a month until April 07, the demand is huge. Presently recruitment is condunting 17 interviews a week with the medical centre receiving 6 pilots per day on average for medicals during the work week. They are looking to have a total of 3000 pilots by 2010 with a fleet of 140 aircraft... On a different noteThe A380 production is delayed between 2-6 months for some orders.

How have things gotten better?

Better? What do you mean? If you mean the interview process, then yes. It is conducted in a more realistic setting. Short tech quiz, followed by a sim brief, followed by lunch and then the sim. Sim was conducted on 777 on the first day. Fairly straight forward. Day 2 consists of group exercises, where you work in groups of 4 to come up with a solution to a problem, followed by the interim assesment where, if they are happy with what they see, you are invited to proceed to the last phase. This consists 2 psyche analysis evaluations followed by an interview with a professional interviewer and a line Captain. After all that they send you to a medical clinic for a full medical and I mean a full medical..ECG, audio, BP, bloodtest, x-ray, vision...everything. One thing I must say..these guys are thorough. Oh and you find your way back to the hotel after that...nice! However if you mean pay, then yes but only slightly...8% across the board and a 3% annual increment. Inflation is high, however compared to 3rd world countries, still much cheaper. Check out the EK website for the pay scales.

That will make Al Thani happy to hear that's what you compare Dubai and the UAE with!
NOT!!!

I'm interested in why you are advertising for Air Pac pilots specifically, and as to why circumstances are now more attractive for them than they must have been before. You did mention a pay increase so that must be it.

mmmmm, an Xray vision test eh. Bugger, I am pretty sure I chucked away those glasses I bought out of Mad Magazine in the late 60's. Sounds like they would have been handy after all. Besides you couldn,t see through girls clothes with em anyway. :cool:

To EKGhan

Why advertise for Airpac...Why not? The locals I hear have been going through a rough patch and for pilots in general there is a global demand, so maybe opportunities for career advances will be quickened at EK.

To Foreign Worker

Dude, you have totally misrepresented what I have mentioned. The UAE is NOT a third world country although a lot of its work force is, from the third world..try 80%. So when you compare refrigerators in India and other countries and Dubai, other items included, you will see a major contrast in price...Dubai prices still come out cheaper. Thats what I meant. Oh and by the way, if you have not yet been enlightened, the word "Dude" literally means Camels Testicles.

Keep Discovering!

the word "Dude" literally means Camels Testicles.


to be more specific, the word means Elephant testicles

More airpac pilots to leave for the sandpit soon?

767 to remain for another 5 years, waiting for either the 787 or A350?

But are they going to EK or QR

If the 767 is staying another 5 years and AirPac plan to get 787 or A350 well good for them, I don't see it happening though, they've been planning to get a lot of things the only thing they are getting is mass resignations.
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The Exodus seems to be for EK, Omanair, Qatar, Air New Zealand, Pacific Blue, Virgin Blue. Even Singair.

Yeah thats great mate. Hopefully some of these racisit 'Air Pac' pilots will get to feel what its like not being wanted in somebody elses country.

What goes around comes around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"What goes around comes around " ???
Rocksteady,
You must have flown with some real hard line Fijians because most of them are easy going towards expats that blend in and not those that come into AirPac wanting to change things " ... back in our old airline we used to do it like this ...... "
:yuk:

YEAH RIGHT BP!!


Nice to your face, stab you in the back...Mob Mentality!!

Tell me this BP, how can you 'blend in' when your not wanted or not made feel welcome. More over, why would you want to lower your self respect just to be accepted??


I Dont believe a word of it

:sad:

Rocky,
Now living the life of an expat I find to get respect you have to give respect , something a lot of visitors to Air Pac didn't . I imagine your time there wasn't nice, thats a shame, most of the expat guys I flew with were good and I never had a problem with them.
Cheers.:ok:

ROCKSTEADY

just wondering....... were you in AP on a "work permit" or moonlighting on a tourist visa?be a bit different if we turned up to work in your neck of the woods.

Bula Vinaka
 

That’s great to hear Blue,

I guess that you must have been one of the good ones then.

If you re-read my initial post, I did say 'some of these racist Pilots'. I was not referring to all of them.

Sadly though, there are too many rants in Fiji, from all ends of the spectrum. This you will have to agree with. Please tell me how local Indian folk would differ from an expat?

I see that you are now out of the Fiji; you now have a different perspective of life as an expat. This is what I am trying to get across. I wish some of these racist Pilots went and lived out of the comfort of their own home for awhile, instead of being spoon fed, just for being a local. Understand. Then they would stop their whinging, and realise, that boundaries and countries are really prehistoric lines in the sand, established for self-gratification. We are all humans and should be treated accordingly. To many cold hearted people in this world. And NO I am NOT racist and in fact far from it. I have much life experience and many years of observation on the front line. I give respect to people that deserve respect. I just cant stand people with heavily inflated ego's, all fake and misleading!!

True, you give then receive! But what if you give and give and don’t receive. Im not the type of person that whispers sweet nothings just to be accepted. If I wanted to be like that, id rather do it in Hollywood...Not Fiji thank you very much!!

Even some of your brighter locals will agree with what I have to say too. Instead of turning a blind eye to what really is going on, accept the fact that this really does happen and things are just like I said. If you break free from your inhibitions, you will broaden your mind. Dont just take my word for it.

Could it also be more and more Air Pac pilots are leaving because they cant stand being butchered by expat DEC and DEFO's??


Goodluck anyway.

Whats the difference FF,

Who is working there on a Work Permit anyway????

Im sorry Flying Fijian,

How many Fijians working in Australia. Surely you have relatives living down here, made a life in Australia, or at least know somebody that does???????????????????????

Now,

How many Australians legally working in Fiji.????????????

Not hard to do the math mate. If you want to approach it from that angle. You sound just like one of the ones Im talking about!!

Hey Rocky,
Leaving because of being butchered by DEC and DEFO ??? Please explain ??
As for Indian pilots, there aren't any , we are all Fijians.

;)

It was a hypothetical question?

The problem lies with Air Pac management. Why are so many locals leaving ? Management. Simple as that.

HEY ROCKY

All but one expat in AP was on a legit work permit.AP and rishworth used a loophole in the immigration law to get around the work permit issue.......and hence the negativity towards expats.IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM.....

AP conveniently used EXPATS to try and break the local pilots union......INDIAN,FIJIAN AND OTHERS alike.

You just got screwd over in the process!!!

Hey ff,

There is no need to keep justifing my posts. It is not only some Air Pac Pilots, but some Pilots from other Airlines as well!! Well, most Pilots from other airlines!! And its not only the Pilots, but I wont go there. Ive run out of my time limit for this subject!! Am getting tired of it! I've proved my point, take it or leave it. Im not gonna sit here and debate about it. It was merely a wake up call thats all!!! Your saying tis ok for you guys to go overseas, and screw over the pilots there right?? Are they not too trying to improve their wages and conditions?? Why, do you leave the best paying job in Fiji to go overseas?? Surely its not just the management?? Maybe for more money for you and to better your position right??? Abit hypocritical if you ask me!!!

By the way, I dont work for Air Pac and never have. So I never had the pleasure of being screwed as you so kindly put it!!

Yes, FF I agree, management using expats to try and break the union, which had no balls anyways.
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Hey Rock.

I've been dealing with Airpac guys for a lot of years, admitedly as a dispatcher and not as an employee, but one thing I have always found with them is that it has always been a pleasure doing business with them. I'd like to think I can count a few of them as friends too.

Hands of me mates Rock, they're all right by me.

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i have had the good fortune to fly with an Ex Air Pac guy, who is still in the Far East and you could not hope to fly with a nicer gentleman, he is a local to Fiji. Has been treated appaulingly by this current airline, but still holds his head high, as he should!
Don't paint everyone with the same brush guys. It works both ways...?

And by the way Desertrat - Dude means 'Camels Dick' in some Middle Eastern language!

Even Better:ok:

I agree that the Fijian pilots union is toothless. This is evident by years of being bullied around by AP management. Who loses out? The local pilots, leaving in masses and having to expatriate themselves, and AP having to hire in costlier expats.
I wish all airlines of the world would just look after their pilots!! May solve a lot of problems downline.

Any rumour in the truth that a percentage of the expatriates working with AP have medical problems that have forced them over to that cor(o)ner of the world?
Rumour has it, that after leaving Cambodia, one little tub of lard had a transitory job in Meazaku, Japan before failing the blood pressure/cholestrol test. Next stop, Air Pathetic, where he remained.

Mate - You obviously have not been subjected to a feejee medical ... I believe it is based on UK medical requirements - and as is the UK way, it is stringent as hell ... I believe the one medical examination report goes through couple of doctors and a medical panel of some sort before the medical certificate is issued .....

I beg to differ Toolong. The medical I did out here in the middle east was much more thorough than any I did in Fiji.

Also, I think it depends on which Dr. you go to in Fiji. Some are a bit more stringent than others.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few rejects(not just medically challenged ones either) finding their way into AP. They are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. There are still good expat pilots in AP but many have left, to be replaced by,well.....you know....con men, bull **** artists etc. What do you expect with the kind of money AP offers?

Pity. Once upon a time it was a lovely airline to work for; for both expat and local alike