BN 01/19 closed due disabled B727
Just noticed this Notam.
What happened ? |
Just heard a 727 has done a Qantas (bangkok) and run off the runaway in brisbane. Dont know the exact details as yet.
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The 727 (Heavylift?) veered off rwy 01 and came to rest about halfway down.
Rwy 14 now in use for all ops. No further details yet. DJ737 |
From Ch 10 News footage it looks to be still on all wheels, but bogged well off the runway.
It could be there for a while. |
ABC Regional News
Tuesday, January 25, 2005. 6:30pm (AEDT) Runway mishap causes Brisbane Airport chaos The main runway at the Brisbane Airport is closed after a freight aeroplane ran off the end. The mishap happened around 4:00pm AEST when a Boeing 727 heavy lift freight liner got stuck in grass at the end of the runway. Most domestic and international flights are currently unable to land and are flying in a holding position until the freight plane is removed. Jim Carden, from the Brisbane Airport, says the flights will be redirected to the Gold Coast if the plane cannot be removed quickly. "We're endeavouring as a priority to remove the plane from the runway and to resume normal operations as soon as we can," he said. ========================================== |
PureRisk, you are obviously just fishing for reactions......
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B105 (Yes, I get it here in the desert!!) reckons it could have been a result of strong x-wind and a wet runway.
Comments? |
Channel 7 just crossed live to their chopper over BNE and the main tyres have sunk into the ground about 6 inches. The report said that the airport firies are trying to dig out around the front of the wheels and using the aircraft engine thrust to move the aircraft.
Wirraway |
somehow i dont think full thrust will move it if its bogged 6 In in soft earth! something i wish i was there to see, and hear!
does it look like it might need jack and build road under it tratment? |
First pictures :
http://www.vpmag.com/yssy/download.php?id=866 http://www.vpmag.com/yssy/download.php?id=865 DJ737 |
ABC news reports all cleared up and moved at 18:30 Brisbane time.
Wirraway Tue "Courier Mail" Passengers delayed by plane mishap 25 jan 05 HUNDREDS of passengers were delayed after a cargo plane mishap closed the main runway at Brisbane domestic airport today. The Boeing 727, on a flight from Cairns, ran off the main runway shortly after 4pm (AEST), said Brisbane Aircraft Corporation (BAC) spokesman Jim Carden. The plane with a crew of three on board, was operated by HeavyLift Cargo Airlines and was empty when it landed. It was believed the aircraft had been due to take a load of cargo to the Solomon Islands tomorrow. "We understand, but it is not confirmed, they had a problem with the front nose wheel at relatively low speed, which caused them to go off to the side of the runway," Mr Carden said. Planes smaller than a Boeing 737 were being allowed to land on the shorter cross-runway but larger aircraft were being diverted to Coolangatta on the Gold Coast or to Sydney. Several hundred passengers waited at the airport as the plane was manoeuvred from the runway and taxied to another area early this evening. The backlog of passengers was expected to be cleared tonight. Executives of HeavyLift were being sought for comment. The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) was investigating. ============================================= Photo by Simon Coates http://xs13.xs.to/pics/05042/SCoats_727.jpg.jpg ============================================= |
cant view pics without registering. :(
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Nit-picky I know but where the press/media and aircraft are concerned, one can't let these things lie ....
How do they know it was the "front nose wheel", as opposed to the rear nose wheel? |
I don't know how much digging they had to do but they drove it out under own power.
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Is it true that the crew were ground testing the aircraft after it had been in for maintenaince having an 'All terrain' traction system installed. Specially designed for those rough strips that one so often encounters in the third world. "Ladies and Gentleman todays flight is brought to you by the new Range Rover Discovery......"
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Depends on which direction it was aquaplaning, claret...!:}
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They used a heavy duty tow truck to unstick it, rumour has it, because qantas wouldn't lend BAC a tug. Any truth to it? (I thought a tug would have been no good on grass any way)
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Foreign rego foreign crew based Cairns? What do expect.
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Having had the misforture (fueled by stupidity) of trying to cut across grass in a TAA Toyota tug after towing a Cessna that collaped nose gear at Wynyard, and subsequently sinking to the axles and need the fireys to drag me out, I can understand why QF did not offer a tug to do the job.
The main problem is the extra weight added to the vehicle to allow effective braking with the weight of an aeroplane behind it. The toyota tug was rated up to DC9, and the rear was solid cast iron. QF Hobart (or whatever brand they are now) tugs would be similar I am sure. Best EWL |
OK guys,the real story:wet runway, gusting x-wind,on landing roll NWS cable breaks,NW off-centre,steering rams now locked due no follow-up,spear off runway onto grass.Attempt made to move a/c under own power by crew unsuccesful.Engineers from Jetcare attend scene,dig sloping trenches in front of gears,lay down steel plates,steering disconnected, and a/c moved out under own power to runway and then towed away. All that done in 2.5 hours and no input from the Rat!:E A/c currently having cables changed and being inspected for damage. Cheers!
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Was holding at O1 when he landed. Fairly strong X/W 20KTS on the ATIS, RWY Damp. Touch down was on the CL and watched him exit the RWY at a shallow angle to the right at about 100Kts.
The Radio Xmit when the aircraft came to a stop was that they had lost nose wheel steering. Didn’t see any sign of asymmetric braking. Glad it wasn’t any worst and no one hurt. :ok: Feel sorry for the crew, but a good reminder to us all of the potential perils a strong X/W and wet rwy. |
Sorry 23 Metro, but seeing a foreign 9L Lek rego, I naturally assumed the crew would also be foreign. Being a true blue aussi on aussi day, I was only being patriotic towards our jobs. All I can say is job well done in difficult circumstances.
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Anyone ever chased rabbits in tugs? Go on, confess.:p
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Ummm - well - errr :O
We did kinda do that on the Honda 3 wheel atv we had at EW DPO - also used to chase the fireys in their Honda Odyssey up and down the sand dunes on Morelands beach. ( That is where it decided it no longer needed a boom and flashing amber light!) They were and still are hares at DPO, and flourishing since we no longer have fireys with weapons that never existed to thin them. Best fun were the wheelchair races from Streddies hangar up to bomb scare corner. Ingredients: 1 wheelchair 25+ knots out of the west 1 umbrella 1 Ansett trafficy similarly equipped Little regard for own safety. Drop footplates - pop brolly and pray!! It was a little hard when you had a departure lounge with early checkins to explain why 2 dudes had just gone screaming past in wheelchairs pulling around 30kph. Also hard to explain why we were always ordering new wheels. Classic fun. Try it if you can get away with it. Warning: The amount of pain experienced on stopping is directly proportional to your terminal velocity and inability to control a wheelchair on grass on the overrun. Best all EWL |
wind em up in reverse, whack em into drive! hang on as the nose points skyward and it drags the tow point at the rear on the ground for a good 50 ft!
or so ive heard!:} |
I am sure CASA will be very interested in this little incident.
May be they should talk to the UK CAA about this operator. |
Post from African Aviation forum
They might start at the AOC paper work Was that for us? I've only made a few posts so I don't feel the need to order a Personal Title and help support PPRuNe posted 31st August 2004 01:07 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Planes for mercenaries fly through Malta Planes for mercenaries fly through Malta, reveals S. African newspaper By Malta Media News Aug 27, 2004, 08:43 Sierra Leone police are investigating four airlines registered in the west African state since 2002 that have never flown there, amid concerns they are fronts for terror groups such as al-Qaeda. Flight records examined by police show that the airlines favoured Middle Eastern destinations, such as Jordan and Lebanon. Flight enthusiasts monitoring the sales of airplanes have posted photos on various websites of Air Leone planes in destinations such as Malta. www.sundaytimes.co.za reported that a British national known as Paddy McKay registered Star Air, Air Universal, Heavy-Lift Cargo and Air Leone in 2002, shortly after the decade of civil war ended in Sierra Leone, Fodie Daboh, chief superintendent of the crime investigations department of the national police, told AFP by telephone from Freetown. "After the war we were looking around everywhere for investors, hoping to start airlines coming here and help to rebuild the country," said Daboh. "When he came, nobody refused." Ranked at the bottom of the UN Human Development Index, post-conflict Sierra Leone embodies the type of failed state that is most attractive to groups such as al-Qaeda, where despite the presence of thousands of UN peacekeepers it is relatively easy to engage in clandestine activities. "We are worried that these airlines are fronts for al-Qaeda - that is the bottom line," said Daboh, adding that police would call on Interpol in coming days to assist the investigation. "They are involved in al-Qaeda business or al-Qaeda issues and are flying our flag - what if they are used in terrorist activities?" said Daboh. "We will be blamed and then blacklisted." McKay paid 5,000 dollars (4,100 euros) for each of the airline registration certificates, telling civil aviation officials he was keen to start flights between Freetown and other destinations, the African Sunday Times reported. "They posed as genuine business people when they came to Sierra Leone to register their airlines and were issued with certificates," said John Bongor, the acting director of civil aviation, who with four of his colleagues has been detained as part of the investigation since the weekend. "But they never once flew in or out of Sierra Leone," said Daboh. None of the airlines have offices or staff in Freetown, and the contact addresses given by McKay were fake, said Daboh. Police have thus far been unsuccessful in tracking McKay down, although an agent working in Freetown on his behalf has co-operated with the investigation. British Transport Minister Tony McNulty in January had banned Star Air and Air Universal from flying in or out of Britain, but gave no reason for including the companies on an international blacklist. "Up to July this year they did not show up so I then issued a notice to them, suspending their licenses," added Bongor. "I have now cancelled their operation certificates but in spite of this, I have information that they are still flying." A watchdog group known as the Association for a Clean Ostend, which monitors the use of the Netherlands' Ostend Airport for arms and drugs smuggling, has reported that Air Leone was once known as Ibis Air transport, an airline operated by Executive Outcomes and its sister company Sandline International. Mercenaries from the South Africa-based Executive Outcomes, who fought on the side of the beleaguered national army, were considered crucial to ending Sierra Leone's civil war. The airlines are not the only potential link between Sierra Leone and the terror network of Osama bin Laden. According to a recently leaked document from the UN-backed war crimes court in the west African state, known high-level al-Qaeda operatives dealt in Sierra Leonean diamonds, using next door Liberia as a conduit. The evidence provided by the court, however, was reviewed and rejected by the US commission investigating the September 11 attacks on the United States as not "substantiated". (Source: www.sundaytimes.co.za) Was that for us? |
is it true that CASA have been letting this heavylift mob (foreign AOC & foreign aircraft) compete directly with local operators on domestic routes?
i thought that was frowned upon by ICAO! |
Funny anyone mentioned a foreign AOC? Thats what I was talking about on Aussi day. But who gives a rats A anyway? Our jobs going to overseas operators and everyone stands around with their hands in their pockets.
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Heavylift’s bread and butter is charter work for the Australian government to Pacific nations. It is not permitted to operate domestically but when it suits the main players, it does. The 727, crewed by locals, is used domestically by AAE to back up its own 727s. The Belslow is crewed by refugees from England, as you would expect.
As regards the foreign AOC, they are operating two great old machines, so I suppose we could cut them a bit of slack. Besides, it gladdens my heart to see someone in a position where they can tell the local regulator to stick their regulations up where the sun don’t shine. However, it’s a double-edged sword. It gives me the ****s when CASA can give me a hard time for a life vest that is two days past its TX date but others can operate with a dodgy AOC. But they should survive this incident. They do have some heavyweight backers with their connection to Polar Air whose major client is the US government. |
One VERY good thing about the 727-100.
The sound of JT8D-7s. I hope they aren't hushkitted so everyone can enjoy. Best all EWL |
They no longer service Polar or Atlas, in fact some ill feelings there, although I am told a family member still works at Prestwick hanger for Polar and is how they sourced the Belfast, doubtful there is any connection apart from livery to the Heavylift UK Company.
Heavylift Australia aka South Pacific Ground Handling aka South Pacific Airmotive Here’s a couple of interesting links http://www.atsb.gov.au/aviation/occu...ail.cfm?ID=333 Or try Google, South Pacific Airmotive Perhaps this is why CASA are a little interested? Here is their new venture www.iasc.gov.au/iasccurr.aspx |
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