censorship
 

Sorry Woomera. But some things really need saying here.

Yesterday I posted a thread regarding VB and a couple incidents they were rumoured as having. And this is a rumour network, corect?

You decided to lock the thread, and make some churlish comments about me knowing better?

Well, you just gotta wonder there, if the VB was replaced by QF, just how long and hard the thread would have lasted. A great deal longer, I would think.

To be quite frank, I'm sick and tired of your partisan attitude, Woomera. You jump on the band wagon every time a QF bashing session comes about, yet, as soon as VB looks suspect what happens?

"Click"

Pathetic censorship. I'm outa here.

Yeah, bring back the VB thread!!!! It was an entertaining read.

As ppRune suggests, its a rumour network, and if those rumours just happen to be true... then so be it!!!

Surely then, if these incidents ACTUALLY HAPPENED then it is in the best interest of everyone if they are reported here...

Woomera???????

VB dont need YOUR help to get their little business going...

I wonder how long till this thread gets deleted too. Don't know how many people saw the thread about the crap admin by woomera that was deleted within an hour and never came back.

I think Woomera does a sterling job, especially as this forum (Dunnunda) is probably the most volatile of all on Pprune!

I don't always agree with some of the editing and I've had my fair share of "arguments", but if you are truly a professional, you accept judgements as they come, especially if your thread is about a "landing safely with wheels up story"!:rolleyes: You can always PM someone about your differences rather than resort to a slanging match on every thread. I've done that with someone here & we've come to an amicable agreement about our differing opinions. Try it, makes the whole experience rather more pleasant!;)

Buster, I'm not going to entertain your comments seriously. If you return to the thread in question and reread it you will understand that "landing with the wheels up" was not a part of it.

By making such comments you are displaying your intellect or lack therof and denigrating your own argument. That goes for the other clowns who responded in turn with quite ridiculous comments. But I can't reply to their stupidity, can I, Woomera?

This thread is about censorship by Woomera. Not about professionalism, or accepting judgements, or even about "landing with the wheels up" (for God's sake Buster!).

This is about partisan censorship. Have a think about it....

Still here?

DJ737

The Roo Rooter:E :ok:

Ooops! My mistake then...how did it go? "737 made a safe landing after the tower told them their wheels were still up with about 100ft to go" or something like that...I'll concede to your semantics then!:rolleyes:

Partisan censorship eh? All depends on where you are coming from I suppose, but hey, why denigrate my intellect any further? Oh, and thanks for getting personal & demeaning yourself!:hmm:

No guessing what sorta censorship you'd like then, is there DJ?

And Buster...? You still don't get it do you? I was asking for more info. Not telling the whole story..... RTFQ.

Woomera??? Woooommmera???

So there!:p

Yes, I'm well aware that you were asking a question, but why would a "pilot" ask such a stoopid question?...GAFLWY!

Woomera handels the lists with a guiding hand which is why I stay,
his postings of industry info and updates is a godsend.

When some one lists his homepage as"airdisaster.com.au"and Dawf tossing as his intrest you have to wonder,eh proplever.
Humour-maybe but mature? No

Proplever. Whilst I agree PPRuNe is a rumour and news network, unsubstantiated, potentially malicious, somewhat sensationalistic bar talk "rumours" against any carrier – Qantas, Virgin or your local charter operator - are not acceptable.

Your post lacked substantiation and integrity, as suggested by everyone who responded to the thread.

As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, to elicit certain reactions.

Yes, you may post rumours on PPRuNe, but ensure they have credibility and integrity.

“Chinese whispers” are not acceptable.

Woomera

Thanks for your reply Woomera, but it really doesn't address the centre issue.

That is: Why does it seem that your censorship is always partisan in favour of Virgin?

I should add here, despite the peanut gallery's comments, the source of the information was reliable, and these "rumours" (not "chinese whispers") seem to have been circulating through my carrier for a while now. But the problem is; you closed the topic before anyone had any chance of substantiating them.

Given that this is the case; I would ask you politely to reopen that thread....

You still here proplever ! ;)

proplever

As a general rule ask yourself if you are prepared to put you real name to the thread. If you aren’t, please don’t ask Pprune to wear the legal responsibility if the thread should go all pear shaped. You can be a real hero when you hide behind a fictitious name, but when you use your real identity, I am sure you would watch carefully what you say. You also say that Woomera is “always partisan in favour of Virgin”. I have to totally disagree with your comment there as I have seen him delete just as many posts on Qantas and other operators on a fairly regular basis if the accusations aren’t substantiated with hard evidence.

proplever,
If there is anybody here who can substatiate your rumours, I'm sure they will do so by opening a separate thread.

Thanks for your reply 404, and I'll take in the spirit in which it is meant.

But isn't that the idea of this forum? Anonimity? Rumours? There are no hero's here. If there are, perhaps they are self proclaimed...?

This is about a thread which was locked prior to running it's full course, thereby creating what I would term partisan censorship.

Let me rephase the point that I am trying to make here. Is there some reason that Woomera (read Pprune, Danny et al) would have to censor the information that I posted? I had heard a rumour (It was put to me as fact though...), and I posted a thread here in an attempt to confirm or deny this.

Before it ran it's full course, the twilight fringe made their humerous additions, and Woomera closed the thread.

Please explain to me why (especially if these incidents ARE true), why they need to be censored?

proplever

If Woomera thought there was a potential for Pprune and Danny to be sued for something that has been written here, he as an obligation being the moderator of this forum to delete it. If you put your name to it then the legal responsibility could be passed to you. Before doing this though I would strongly suggest having a lot more hard evidence than just what someone has said to you as being fact as I can assure you that you would find yourself in court faster than you can say “I’m innocent”.

proplever. You just aren't getting the message! :*

Firstly, let me assure you that neither I, nor any other Woomera (nor any other PPRuNe Moderator) has any bias for (or against) Virgin, Qantas or any other carrier, operator or person. Your allegation is simply totally unfounded. Moderating PPRuNe is based solely on the spirit and letter of the rules to which you agreed when you joined PPRuNe.

Secondly, in our society - whether in PPRuNe or in the wider community - you can't make the type of serious, malicious, irresponsible, unsubstantiated allegations you made, without being called to account. I note you prefer a cloak of anonymity, however at law the PPRuNe site owners and publishers are solely responsibility for your statements.

You stated: "you closed the topic before anyone had any chance of substantiating them." I suggest that had you posted your substantiating evidence in your first post, you may have received a far better response from others who posted and the thread may not have been closed.

Woomera

If it was a defamatory post about your piloting skills, or lack of & named you personally, would you be happy for it to be discussed here?

BTW, I'm happy to be in the peanut gallery, because if you haven't got a sense of humour in the Australasian airline industry, then you just don't get it!;)

proplever

Yes. You are a entitled to your own opinion, I guess. (Unsubstantiated, of course !)