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Old 5th Jun 2003, 15:29
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Exclamation Attempted Hijacking - Melbourne, Today - Virgin 737 DJ323

Hey Guys,

Just in:

THERE has been another attempt to hijack a passenger jet at Melbourne airport.
Channel 7 says a man is in custody after making threats against the Brisbane-bound Virgin Blue aircraft, reported as being flight number DJ 323.

The man was reportedly arrested on board the plane while it was taxiing along the runway at Melbourne's Tullamarine airport.

The man allegedly began making verbal threats and the pilot immediately returned the aircraft to the terminal.

The crew on board the Melbourne-to-Brisbane flight contacted security after the incident, which happened while the plane was still on the tarmac, an Australian Federal Police (AFP) spokeswoman said.

The spokeswoman said no weapon was involved in the incident.

"A passenger has made (a) verbal threat which has caused concern among crew," she said.

Security services were waiting by the time the aircraft arrived.

Earlier reports had the man armed with a surgical instrument.

Police are now searching the plane on the tarmac at Melbourne Airport.

From news.com.au


From what I can gather, the flight was the typical Virgin 737, due to takeoff from Melbourne around 4pm.

Ironically, this is exactly one week since the Qantas Flight 1737 saga at Melbourne.

Cheers,

Souls.

According to Channel 10's "First at Five", the attacker claimed:

"I have syringes on me and I very much doubt this plane will ever make it to Brisbane..."

The shaken passengers were comforted and later tonight will continue their flight to Brisbane on another Virgin flight due to depart at 8:30pm.

Hope all the passengers and crew are well.

Souls.
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There is only one logical solution, which of course is not a knee jerk reaction.

Stop all these nutcase Melbournians from getting on a plane!

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Lets be sensible about this shall we?

Can anyone honestly accept that this was a serious attempt at hijacking an aircraft?

I for one am sick and tired of all these drama queens making mountains out of sand piles!
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Drama Queens

Fair call 'stratoblaster'.

Just be sure to keep in mind that next time you are on a domestic flight and someone threatens that the aircraft will not make it's destination due to their psychotic intervention, we all won't be expecting you to have your two-bob's worth - otherwise you might be branded a drama queen.

Spare a thought for those involved and picture yourself in their shoes.
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Hijackings yesterday, diversions last week, go-arounds the week before, rejected takeoffs last month!
What will it be today? Maybe a broken nail or perhaps a chipped tooth.
Where is the real news?
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Fri "The Australian"


Mr Martin arrives in Brisbane

Hijack fear grounds flight
By Duncan Macfarlane
June 6, 2003

PUBLIC servant Rob Martin was looking forward to seeing his family after a long business trip to Melbourne when he took his seat on Virgin Flight DJ323 yesterday afternoon.

After 14 hours on the go, the 53-year-old IT manager at the Queensland Department of Public Works just wanted a quiet trip back to Brisbane.

He was the last passenger on the plane, and as he sat down he looked across at the young man in the window seat next to him and tried to make small talk.

"Gee it's a full plane," he said, noticing the man smelt unwashed and was sporting a fresh black eye and skin off his knuckles as if he had recently been in a fight.

The man glared at him silently for 10 seconds before barking: "I've got sharp objects." Mr Martin asked him to repeat himself.

"I've got sharp objects and this plane isn't going to make it to Brisbane." As he muttered the threat, the plane left the terminal and started to taxi towards the runway.

Mr Martin's thoughts raced, wondering what he would do if the man became violent. At 191cm, Mr Martin felt he could probably pin the other man against the side of the aircraft if he needed too.

"This is Bush's plane and it's going down," the man said.

"That's when I thought things had gone far enough and I called the flight attendent," Mr Martin recalled later.

He also whispered to the middle-aged woman in the aisle seat next to him, telling her to unbuckle and be ready to flee if there was violence.

When the flight attendent arrived the man denied Mr Martin's account, accusing him of being "paranoid".

A few minutes later the plane's lights flickered and the pilot announced there was a technical problem and the plane had aborted takeoff.

When Australian Federal Police boarded soon after, the 30-year-old man seemed astounded and allowed himself to be handcuffed and arrested.

Coming a week after two Qantas flight attendents were injured in a mid-air hijacking drama, Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson yesterday said the man had behaved stupidly but security arrangements had worked well.

The Australian
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Spare a thought for those involved in WHAT? Soulman.

It sure the hell wasn't a hijack. It wasn't a crash and burn emergency.It wasn't a sudden and catastrophic encounter with severe turbulence. It wasn't .........................

What traumatic and life threatening experience did those passengers exactly go through?

It was a serious incident within the context of expected normal human behaviour. Not a serious hijack attempt!

Thats my two bobs worth!
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If anyone says something as stupid as that idiot did then they should expect the consequences. It's just not funny to make threats then say after the fact they didn't mean it.

I believe that the crew only had one course of action open to them and they took it. They did the correct thing & booted him off.

Any threat such as that must be taken seriously and it would be remiss of the crew to have done otherwise. Safety of passengers and crew should always be of paramount importance.

It's the media that blow things out of all proportion with their "attempted hijack" stories. In the 21st century no-one can afford to assume someone isn't serious when they make threats of that nature no matter how 'innocent'.

I wouldn't want a fellow passenger to make an assumption on my behalf on whether someone is of sound mind or whether or not they intended to hijack an aircraft of not. It's my life too!

It's probably just as well that someone like Mr Martin was sitting next to this person and was able to act quickly and take the appropriate action. What if it had been an unaccompanied minor or someone who didn't speak English??? Might have been a totally different outcome altogether.
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Stratoblaster

Answer one question. Would you sit on a plane and say the exact same words to a fellow passenger and not expect the same result, especially after what happenned on the QF flight.
If the answer is yes, you are as stupid as that guy on the Virgin flight and should never fly any airline.
If the answer is no, you are a hyprocritical ass and should keep your thoughts to your self.
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The man was unarmed.

Airliners carry nutters every day of the week.

This sort of thing happens a lot on planes, trains and .... automobiles.

Two years ago this would not have been reported.
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1. Unknown at the time....

2. Yes they do, but most don't threaten that this A/C will not make it to its destination....

3. And how do you come to this conclusion Funky ? From experience perhaps????

4. Two years ago the same thing would have happened. He would have been offloaded....& I am talking from personal experience. Whether it would have been reported would be dependent on there being a journalist nearby after the A/C returnded to the gate.....
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Press are reporting thet he was unarmed.

I have had personal experience (about 6 years go) where a pax made idle threats (also was drunk) and was offloaded before departure. Incident was not reported in the press.

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Normality

Like I said Stratoblaster, picture yourself in their shoes.

Would you have just sat there pleasantly whilst a psychotic idiot muttered threats of the plane not making it's destination? I think not, but if yes, you have some serious problems my friend.

Perhaps you should become an Air Marshall - then again, the plane would have it be in a spiralling dive toward earth with a madman at the controls before you intervened - you wouldn't want to be seen 'making a mountain out of a sand pile'.

Please keep in mind that I did establish this topic just moments after hearing of it, when the picture was not so clear.

Souls.
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Well at least an incident like this involving Virgin, changes the usual rhetoric of a slanging match at the airline! Australia fair?
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I flew Virgin on Sunday night Perth to Melbourne.
When I came off the airway into the cabin, and the F/A's were greeting the pax, one of the plastic buckles on the daypack I was carrying scraped against the bulkhead, normally a pretty harmless sound.

But when it happened, the two F/A's just about jumped out of their skins!

They did a great job of maintaining their composures nevertheless, considering it sounded like a knife being drawn, or something....

Anyway, it showed me that the pressure levels of their jobs have risen quite a bit lately... Even without a problem onboard, they have to maintain a high level of alertness, and that can be quite stressful.

Another thing, I don't know if there is some kind of silent personal duress alarm system, but the other F/A's seemed to be completely aware that something had just happened to alarm the two I scared, and I copped the eyeballs all the way to my seat, until the explanation came out, with a good stress relieving laugh.

All the best to all the F/A's out there, sorry if I scared you on Sunday night!
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Well what can I say Soulman.

I am the type of person who likes to evaluate situations based on fact and logic not on some ignorant journalistic bull****!

If that means that I have serious problems then so be it!

I note that you also posted your initial post on rumours and news seeking feedback. Didn't get a consensus of opinion on that forum though did ya?

Seems then that I am not the only one with problems. I mean there are others who do not agree with you and so I guess they must have problems too!
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Wink Stratoblaster

You are my hero.
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Ooh!
I've never been anyone's hero before!
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Louey, Maaate, yah got it all wrong. Ya see, they musta thought the sound was like yew wuz undoin' ya fly and they was turned on by the sound. They probably called the other girls and told 'em you were coming! Ya gotta grab the bull by the horns when this happens, mate. Look, I know, truely rooly. I mean, girls keep telling me, fer instance, that I look like a cross between Chad Morgan and Marty Feldman. I dont know cause I havnt seen their films or nuthin', but it is preetty damn cool to look like a rock star and a popular singer, let me tell you ! ( I dont think much of Marty's music tho). I mean, pal, when I was in skool, Leanne King, the school babe (everyone was trying to &%$#@#$% her) said to me "ya know, Ralph you 're so , well, interesting". So , I know I had a better chance than most, right? Sensitive new age guy and all. This is when I knew I a leader of the pack, huh? I'll ya an example, when I was doing the AWOPS contract, 2 of the QF hostitutes, said " ya know Ralph, you have a big problem; acute halitosis". Haha! I know it's big, more that 5 inches! And cute, yeah it is cute how it kinks in the middle at right angles. ( word must get around , 'cause they weren't any of the girls who I showed it to in the galley that time). So try harder next time mate and YOU'LL BE IN! Just make sure ya give 'em ya number, right? Look, I know, cause I only go out with the best girls. Like last month, I had a date with a total BABE from Pacific Airlines and I KNEW I wuz gunna SCORE! But she had to leave early to look after her sick sister ( this is how I know she was a good girl, because I gave her some of my special artichoke tea for her sister and on her way out of the resturaunt, she threw it in the bin; Vietnam has VERY strict quarantine laws, ya see). Anyway, ya gotta listen ta my advice here, mate. I have a certain insight into these matters. Some people think I'm a bit of a Guru, ya know. Like, when I go to parties (or is that, party's??) a crowd always gathers around to listen to what I say and someone always says " I dont believe I'm hearing this". So, I obviously put some sort of zap of enlightenment on them, right? So next time the opportunity strikes Louie, give them ya number. But make sure it's the right one, or they cant get a hold of ya. (I'm speakiung from experience, 'cause I make this mistake all the time). Good Hunting...

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Smile Apologies Stratoblaster

After reading Ralph's reply, he now takes the coveted 'Hero Status'.

You've just go to spice your replies up a bit Strat, and you will soon have my praise again. (Like the Journo's do.... )

Cheers mate.

Souls.
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