Freedom Air / Air New Zealand Recruitment Process
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Freedom Air / Air New Zealand Recruitment Process
HAVE AN INTERVIEW WITH AIR NEW ZEALAND FOR A POSITION WITH FREEDOM AIR B737 FIRST OFFICER HAVE BEEN TOLD TO EXPECT TECH TEST PLANNING EXERCISE AND GROUP TASK AND PANEL INTERVIEW, ANY ONE WITH INFO ON INTERVIEW PROCESS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED !!!!
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Does your Daddy work for the company ??
They publicly state that their standards are very high for the selection process, however judging by some of the total dimwits they have just taken on I think it's just a bunch of un-trained line pilots doing the selection procedure.
My advice is to do the same as the new recruits, get some interview training and you'll be a shoe in.
Don't worry about what you put on your CV or who you put as references, they don't check them anyway.
They publicly state that their standards are very high for the selection process, however judging by some of the total dimwits they have just taken on I think it's just a bunch of un-trained line pilots doing the selection procedure.
My advice is to do the same as the new recruits, get some interview training and you'll be a shoe in.
Don't worry about what you put on your CV or who you put as references, they don't check them anyway.
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All the interviewing is now done by AirNZ for jobs at both Freedom & AirNZ. It's a much more transparent process and should knock all the nepotism on the head.
Panel is selected from a group of line pilots & HR people who have all been through a interview training course.
Polish your shoes and be yourself!
Panel is selected from a group of line pilots & HR people who have all been through a interview training course.
Polish your shoes and be yourself!
Barbers pole - nepotism! I am interested to know to what extent this was occuring in AirNZ and what effect it has had on the caliber of the individuals hired i.e. are there plenty of dimwits as 123567 asserts? Usually when selection practices are changed it is because the Airline concerned is unhappy to some extent with the candidates hired. Qantas found this with their GA flight test back in the late 80s. VB here in Aus seem to use the 'who you know' process, but I think it is too early to tell if undesirables are slipping in.
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Just to clarify my position, (why do I bother)
I say to everyone - use nepotism to your advantage. It works because they don't check your references. (at least they didn't check mine).
A few years back after I saw at least 6 new recruits in one hit who had family (mainly Fathers) getting jobs with the airline, I decided to do a John Davy and mention my "Uncle" who was a retired pilot for the company on my application form.
Hey presto it worked and wouldn't you know it I had a shiny new uniform before you could say "well it looks like we need another bail-out".
The second comment is only relaying information passed on from Training Captains and Sim Instructors (so I can't take credit for that).
But I guess now that you have to pay for your type rating (advert in NZ Herald) it will certainly, as Barbers Pole states "knock it on the head".
But, surely only kiddies with rich daddies (I mean Captains) will be able to afford this.
Sorry about the tardiness in my reply (I have been working).
I say to everyone - use nepotism to your advantage. It works because they don't check your references. (at least they didn't check mine).
A few years back after I saw at least 6 new recruits in one hit who had family (mainly Fathers) getting jobs with the airline, I decided to do a John Davy and mention my "Uncle" who was a retired pilot for the company on my application form.
Hey presto it worked and wouldn't you know it I had a shiny new uniform before you could say "well it looks like we need another bail-out".
The second comment is only relaying information passed on from Training Captains and Sim Instructors (so I can't take credit for that).
But I guess now that you have to pay for your type rating (advert in NZ Herald) it will certainly, as Barbers Pole states "knock it on the head".
But, surely only kiddies with rich daddies (I mean Captains) will be able to afford this.
Sorry about the tardiness in my reply (I have been working).
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123567
I must say I agree with you on the nepotism thing in NZ. Years ago in the US a lot of airlines had strict anti nepotism rules. For example at North West, if your Dad was a NW pilot you would never have got a job there. Even after he had retired.
If I remember right, could be the same if the relative wasn't that closely linked to you.
You would have to go to another airline. I believe however, that these rules have been relaxed.
I must say I agree with you on the nepotism thing in NZ. Years ago in the US a lot of airlines had strict anti nepotism rules. For example at North West, if your Dad was a NW pilot you would never have got a job there. Even after he had retired.
If I remember right, could be the same if the relative wasn't that closely linked to you.
You would have to go to another airline. I believe however, that these rules have been relaxed.
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Having worked in other industries in NZ, and having been head hunted for a senior role, only to be rejected - against the recruitment consultants advice, my experience is that in NZ it is not what you know, or what your experience is that counts in job selection. It is who you know, or more importantly how much they like you.
On arrival in NZ I was told 'remember it is a small country' - I was told by someone on Dunedin that I was being head hunted for a post in Wellington two hours before I received a phone call about this - and the person in Dunedin had NO connection with the Wellington role. What you say/do travels fast and they have long memories. They also do not like criticism, particularly of the 'Kiwi Way' of doing things.
On arrival in NZ I was told 'remember it is a small country' - I was told by someone on Dunedin that I was being head hunted for a post in Wellington two hours before I received a phone call about this - and the person in Dunedin had NO connection with the Wellington role. What you say/do travels fast and they have long memories. They also do not like criticism, particularly of the 'Kiwi Way' of doing things.
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Just been through the recruitment process (successfully). Three out of the four in my assessment group (including myself) would have know no one at Freedom Air. We were assessed because we had NZ licences and B737 experience.
Freedom recruitment my have been as described above in the past but IN MY OPINION the Air New Zealand process provides more of a level playing field.
Freedom recruitment my have been as described above in the past but IN MY OPINION the Air New Zealand process provides more of a level playing field.
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My apologies groundhog. The post was written in about 15 seconds before I had to leave for work!
Interview process was as follows:
1st day sim check - raw data 747-400, ADF tracking, holding, ILS appoach to minimums
2nd day exams - planning exam, tech exam (general ATPL type questions - multi choice)
3rd day interview
4th day group exercise - introduce yourself to group, select who to interview for Air New Zealand from several CVs
My impression is that once you have the interview you're OK - you have to "talk yourself out of the job". The hard jobs getting the interview.
Interview process was as follows:
1st day sim check - raw data 747-400, ADF tracking, holding, ILS appoach to minimums
2nd day exams - planning exam, tech exam (general ATPL type questions - multi choice)
3rd day interview
4th day group exercise - introduce yourself to group, select who to interview for Air New Zealand from several CVs
My impression is that once you have the interview you're OK - you have to "talk yourself out of the job". The hard jobs getting the interview.
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Was there anyone in your group who didn't have a 737 rating already? Do they still call people and indicate that interviews would be available once they've been and got the rating, or is that door completely shut now?
74world,
Unless you are a citizen of NZ or hold full residency, I would forget it, Freedomair recruitment is now unfortunately handled by ANZ and their policy is cast in stone. AKL is there main base.
You could try Jetconnect also B737 lowcost in AKL.
Unless you are a citizen of NZ or hold full residency, I would forget it, Freedomair recruitment is now unfortunately handled by ANZ and their policy is cast in stone. AKL is there main base.
You could try Jetconnect also B737 lowcost in AKL.
Hi Propaganda,
Thanks for the info, I currently hold an Aussie passport.....
I'm looking for Freedom or AIR NZ's pay scale, do you know how much they get????
I've received an email from Air NZ, but they would not reveal the terms and conditions of employment.
Regarding jetconnect, I've applied through pilot.staffcv but I don't have a 73 type rating.
What about jetconnect, do you know much about them???
Cheers
Thanks for the info, I currently hold an Aussie passport.....
I'm looking for Freedom or AIR NZ's pay scale, do you know how much they get????
I've received an email from Air NZ, but they would not reveal the terms and conditions of employment.
Regarding jetconnect, I've applied through pilot.staffcv but I don't have a 73 type rating.
What about jetconnect, do you know much about them???
Cheers