Ansett 737 last day (CZD)
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Ansett 737 last day (CZD)
On Monday October 28 2002 Ansett's 737-300 (CZD) got the chop up in Brisbane. I had many great days aboard this girl and she will be missed.
If someone can explain to me how to upload some images I would be more than happy to post them here.
Cheers
Lozza
If someone can explain to me how to upload images to this site I would be more than happy to post them here.
Cheers
Lozza
If someone can explain to me how to upload some images I would be more than happy to post them here.
Cheers
Lozza
If someone can explain to me how to upload images to this site I would be more than happy to post them here.
Cheers
Lozza
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Yes a sad sight!
The yellow drot or whatever its called had a long arm with a parrot beak at the end. It went chomp / chomp / bang ect and before you knew it VH CZD was no more.
The yellow drot or whatever its called had a long arm with a parrot beak at the end. It went chomp / chomp / bang ect and before you knew it VH CZD was no more.
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Well!...the pictures that rmm had posted are a testament..to what happens when Air New Zealand, or New Zealanders takes over your company, once a great airline, that was touched by the Midas touch of which only the New Zealanders have, may the "nogs of the pacific" rot in hell, this is proof of their legacy and their stewardship...Ansett took 66 years to build and only less than 18 months to destroy, what a proud achievement of New Zealand and her rotten Government.....
Hey Richard - I'm a Kiwi and I work for Qantas - what did it have to do with me? My Dad and sister are schoolteachers, what did it have to do with them?
Edit your post to read "under the stewardship of Selwyn Cushing and the Air New Zealand board"
Edit your post to read "under the stewardship of Selwyn Cushing and the Air New Zealand board"
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Why couldn't the Bastards just donate it to someone like Queensland Air Museum in Caloundra?????????
Surely it couldn't be worth more than a couple of grand in scrap metal?????? By the time you add up the manpower cost to strip it!!!!!!.....
Ruthless ******s!!
& What about the Bae 146 that was sitting on an old taxiway near threshold of RWY 01 a few months ago??????
Surely it couldn't be worth more than a couple of grand in scrap metal?????? By the time you add up the manpower cost to strip it!!!!!!.....
Ruthless ******s!!
& What about the Bae 146 that was sitting on an old taxiway near threshold of RWY 01 a few months ago??????
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Sorry to hear that you work for Qantas conehead I hear there is a s**t load of you in Q, I wonder how many Aussies fly for Air New Zealand, the fact remains, that this is the result after Ansett got involved with garbage. Im sure even your fathers dog and your sisters cat had nothing to do with it, show me one NZ company looking like that after the Australians have been there. As for watchdog, TNT and News sold Ansett as a going concern, no pictures of guns as I can remember at the heads of the ANZ board, tickets were sold in OZ and immediately transfered to the land of garbage, engines stripped, anything that was not bolted down was stolen in the night no decisions were made, under the stewardship of that diseased airline, Ansett just floundered, they knew quite well at what they were going to do, it was, if we can't have it, no one will, ANZ did not want Ansett around for SQ to pick up and compete across the Pacific, Q and ANZ were s**t scared, and for that poor excuse for a woman, who said "before we bought that limon" just goes to show the mentality and ignorance of the enzeds, I'm afraid if the cap fits wear it...the whole sad episode was one of rape and pillage.
Baron Captain ?
Thanks for the kind words about the Queensland Air Museum. Sadly I think CZD was too far gone even for QAM who can usually be depended on to save the aeroplanes nobody else wants. For what it's worth, over the years QAM approached Ansett to try to save an F-27 and an F-28, and in both instances our letters went unanswered. We do try but we can't save everything.
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Thanks for the kind words about the Queensland Air Museum. Sadly I think CZD was too far gone even for QAM who can usually be depended on to save the aeroplanes nobody else wants. For what it's worth, over the years QAM approached Ansett to try to save an F-27 and an F-28, and in both instances our letters went unanswered. We do try but we can't save everything.
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What a shame - I'd originally heard (albeit some time ago) that it was going to be used by Queensland TAFE (in a JV with Boeing?) as an instructional airframe...of course finding room may have been a problem but surely they could have kept something for instruction, e.g. major structure like the centre/wing box area???
Oh well, now we have the worldwide distinction of breaking up the first 737-300 not the result of an accident...a 16 year old airframe with only 43k hours/31k cycles. An unfortunate victim of industry timing and of course...accountants.
Oh well, now we have the worldwide distinction of breaking up the first 737-300 not the result of an accident...a 16 year old airframe with only 43k hours/31k cycles. An unfortunate victim of industry timing and of course...accountants.
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Ansett demise
I find it difficult to believe that Richard K. can be so mis-informed.
I started flying with ANA and was there when Reg took over.
I flew one of the DC-3's when we took staff to Sydney to vote out Butler Air Transport.
I was quite senior when Abeles took over in the early 80's and attended many cocktail gatherings on the 17th floor when Abeles was picking our brains in order to try and run an airline.
Very early he started to sell off assets and lease back.
This was the begining of the end, about 20 odd years before final collapse.
Air NewZealand was just the nail in the coffin.
Later in 89, my seniority number was 007, and if some one had provided me with a silver bullet I could have probably solved the problem we had then.
I took up a position at SIA and at the first bussiness meeting I attended, my wife and I met Dr Cheong.
When he found we were Australians he welcomed us to Singapore and made a statement I will never forget.
He said there was no problem with the 1050 pilots who left just a problem with 4 management types who could not manage.
He also stated SIA would not consider Ansett unless they could get 51%.
So Richard, if you are going to make statements about the collapse of Ansett read a little history first.
Better still don't comment at all.
PS. I am the last Australian National Airways pilot still flying and hope to keep going a few more years yet.
50 years is up in January next
I hope you all have as satisfactory a flying carrear as me, just look forward and don't lament the past.
What's done is done, but the world is a big and wonderfull place and there are opportunities for those who open their horizons.
I started flying with ANA and was there when Reg took over.
I flew one of the DC-3's when we took staff to Sydney to vote out Butler Air Transport.
I was quite senior when Abeles took over in the early 80's and attended many cocktail gatherings on the 17th floor when Abeles was picking our brains in order to try and run an airline.
Very early he started to sell off assets and lease back.
This was the begining of the end, about 20 odd years before final collapse.
Air NewZealand was just the nail in the coffin.
Later in 89, my seniority number was 007, and if some one had provided me with a silver bullet I could have probably solved the problem we had then.
I took up a position at SIA and at the first bussiness meeting I attended, my wife and I met Dr Cheong.
When he found we were Australians he welcomed us to Singapore and made a statement I will never forget.
He said there was no problem with the 1050 pilots who left just a problem with 4 management types who could not manage.
He also stated SIA would not consider Ansett unless they could get 51%.
So Richard, if you are going to make statements about the collapse of Ansett read a little history first.
Better still don't comment at all.
PS. I am the last Australian National Airways pilot still flying and hope to keep going a few more years yet.
50 years is up in January next
I hope you all have as satisfactory a flying carrear as me, just look forward and don't lament the past.
What's done is done, but the world is a big and wonderfull place and there are opportunities for those who open their horizons.
richard kranium! your username is so apt because you are in fact a ********!!!
do some homework buddy before you go espousing your ill informed opinions and insults to everyone.
you obviously have no understanding of why ansett really collapsed, sure air nz made some mistakes, so did ansett management. ive gone through all this before so i won't say it all again, we all know ansett was as much to blame for it's own demise as anyone else.
poor old czd
do some homework buddy before you go espousing your ill informed opinions and insults to everyone.
you obviously have no understanding of why ansett really collapsed, sure air nz made some mistakes, so did ansett management. ive gone through all this before so i won't say it all again, we all know ansett was as much to blame for it's own demise as anyone else.
poor old czd
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well Thank you topend3, beacuse thats exactly whats missing in the topend, who do you think Ansett management was when it collapsed, NO let me guess," Air New Zealand ", this is the remnants of what happens when you mix with garbage. in 18 months a S**T load could have been done. glastar, you have done well out of an aviation career, despite TNT, NEWS, and anybody else, pity I could not make to 007.......
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Kranium,
You sad ba*#@rd, I hope your not still flying. If you are I hope you don't get to fly kiwis around. All my family are kiwis, we don't want to fly with you by accident, as none of us had anything to do with the demise of Ansett.
You sad ba*#@rd, I hope your not still flying. If you are I hope you don't get to fly kiwis around. All my family are kiwis, we don't want to fly with you by accident, as none of us had anything to do with the demise of Ansett.
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Im still waiting on advice of how to upload these images...lol
Anyone?
I'm still waiting for someone to advise me on how to upload the images...lol
Anyone?
Sorry for the double post...
Anyone?
I'm still waiting for someone to advise me on how to upload the images...lol
Anyone?
Sorry for the double post...
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Lozza. I think you need to have mastered the art of deleting duped posts, before we can show you how to upload images!!
Dick! Give it a rest. I'm as angry as you are, but we just end up going in circles. It's all been said before.
If you need to target someone, target the new accounting firm that's been listed as the one with the strongest growth potential. Target the one that has virtually guaranteed itself at least 3 more years of bleeding the Ansett cash cow. Target the one that is reducing our payout figure on a daily basis. Never mind the old PRlCKS, these are just as bad!
Dick! Give it a rest. I'm as angry as you are, but we just end up going in circles. It's all been said before.
If you need to target someone, target the new accounting firm that's been listed as the one with the strongest growth potential. Target the one that has virtually guaranteed itself at least 3 more years of bleeding the Ansett cash cow. Target the one that is reducing our payout figure on a daily basis. Never mind the old PRlCKS, these are just as bad!
Poor old CZD. So what was so wrong with this aircraft that it couldn't be brought back? Afterall, 31k cycles isn't that many, especially to be scrapped. Was it one of those 'Friday afternoon' build machines?