Network Aviation PIA
Can you clarify “green”? If you are speaking about experience you probably need to amend your post. I know 30 guys at NAA that have over 20yrs LHS experience. Most QF Captains have been F/Os for 25yrs and observed behaviours or other 25yr F/Os that have had CMD for 5yrs. The goose actively trying to inject himself into the QF Board is a classic example of QF experience. Certainly no Chuck Yagger
and we also have the possibility of QF Academy Cadets in the RHS to consider. Hows that gonna play out in Pilbara airspace around YCWA?
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Is VARA heading the same way?
Ive just completed a trip with a colleague who has been told a deal between VARA and Pionair for a bunch of E190’s is imminent, anyone have any info?
3. Who would have thought.
Make them squirm.
and we also have the possibility of QF Academy Cadets in the RHS to consider. Hows that gonna play out in Pilbara airspace around YCWA?
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Thanks very much walesregent, great info. It’s hard to see the holes in an EA when you’re only reading it, not flying it day in - day out.
You absolutely right, the stars have aligned and there will not be a better time than now to fix the various issues you refer to.
Good luck with it.
You absolutely right, the stars have aligned and there will not be a better time than now to fix the various issues you refer to.
Good luck with it.
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Free reserve coverage? Shorthaul you get paid to work, if you do the standby and get called in, you get paid. Works for some. Doesn’t work for others. If it doesn’t work, you can go sick. Pretty simple.
Safety 1st priority and all that
I would bet my nuts Qantas are in a meeting right now trying on everything to call off the strike, it's their worst nightmare. I guarantee they are telling the union "we are ready to talk guys c'mon trust us" It's a last ditch effort & a desperate sneaky ploy, DO NOT TRUST THEM. they did exactly the same thing with us at short-haul, they avoided a strike, they looked like hero's and we got conned. Don't cancel your PIA because they want to "TALK" the time for that is over, it's time to get something in writing - with a signature. Don't fall for their tricks !!!
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I have said it here before & will say it again....
Never ever believe any qantas manager is your friend, they will try & cuddle up to you & be 1 of the boys & the very next day will show their true colours.
Every f...ing 1 of them is tarred with the same brush.
Meanwhile, AIPA have just sent its members an email stating that they are disappointed that the AFAP have gone down the PIA route. Suggesting that 10-16% in one of the world’s highest taxing countries for some of the lowest paid airline pilots is a “win”.
We fail because we let this mentality run our unions.
We fail because we let this mentality run our unions.
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Yes, I get that, it’s why I specifically asked what is missing? What do people want?
Since I asked that question I’ve had 1 informative answer (thank you walesregent) and 20+ posts of people slagging each other off for being scabs.
Are we missing the point of PIA? Is it to have a day off and poke management in the eye, or is it to achieve a better outcome in your EA? Why is it forbidden to ask the natural question of what is the goal of the PIA?
Feels like people are getting so giddy with excitement about “sticking it to the man” that some on here have forgotten the point of industrial action.
As for ‘reading the room’, that’s exactly what I’m attempting to do by asking Network pilots themselves, what they want.
Since I asked that question I’ve had 1 informative answer (thank you walesregent) and 20+ posts of people slagging each other off for being scabs.
Are we missing the point of PIA? Is it to have a day off and poke management in the eye, or is it to achieve a better outcome in your EA? Why is it forbidden to ask the natural question of what is the goal of the PIA?
Feels like people are getting so giddy with excitement about “sticking it to the man” that some on here have forgotten the point of industrial action.
As for ‘reading the room’, that’s exactly what I’m attempting to do by asking Network pilots themselves, what they want.
There is a reason that the promised maximum 4 A320’s (remember GD’s same promise with JQ) has morphed into a juggernaut of expansion - low wages and terrible COS. A beancounters nirvana, seen it before and will see it again unless the current IR and Legal environment changes significantly. Fat Chance of that.
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Meanwhile, AIPA have just sent its members an email stating that they are disappointed that the AFAP have gone down the PIA route. Suggesting that 10-16% in one of the world’s highest taxing countries for some of the lowest paid airline pilots is a “win”.
We fail because we let this mentality run our unions.
We fail because we let this mentality run our unions.
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The proposed deal includes:
- A pay rise of 10-16% (depending on category and years of service) back dated to October 2022. The last NAA pay rise was in October 2019. This obviously includes back pay for the last 12 months.
- Ongoing 3% pay rises for October 2023, 2024, 2025.
- Credits for Annual Leave. Previously Annual Leave was just a period of time resulting in some very heavy rosters in the weeks prior to and after finishing Annual Leave where leave straddled two different roster periods.
- A reduction in hours required to be paid the annual salary from 65 hours per four week roster to 59.
- Payments of 4 hours for simulator sessions to be included within the monthly rostered hours.
- Payments of 2 hours for other ground training duties
Seems they think it’s ok. It’s a move in the right direction but it’s also a drop in a very dry ocean. Pilots are becoming unified, now the unions need to follow our lead.
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Here is the last paragraph
To be clear, we reiterate that AIPA is not making any recommendation for or against the proposed EA at this time. This is a decision of the CoM and will be communicated to our membership on Friday afternoon.
And nowhere do they say they are disappointed.
To be clear, we reiterate that AIPA is not making any recommendation for or against the proposed EA at this time. This is a decision of the CoM and will be communicated to our membership on Friday afternoon.
And nowhere do they say they are disappointed.
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FFS mate, they have said they are neither supporting nor condemning it. Read what was written.
AIPA isn’t supporting PIA for their members, because they haven’t had PIA either voted on or approved. AIPA members can’t take PIA just because AFAP members are.
AIPA isn’t supporting PIA for their members, because they haven’t had PIA either voted on or approved. AIPA members can’t take PIA just because AFAP members are.
