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Old 26th Sep 2023, 05:50
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I heard 91% for the Eastern one from a few people that are there, not sure about Sunnies and Network though.
Sunnies 95% apparently. Any idea of Network?
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 06:00
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You can see the results for yourself, FWC publishes them: Network PIA ballot

Looks like all but 1 of the eligible pilots voted and ~97% support the various actions.

Great work guys and girls. Good luck with the next stage, I hope you get a good outcome.
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 06:06
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98% for PIA according to an afap email. Stick it to them everyone...time for them to pay
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 06:25
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98% for PIA according to an afap email. Stick it to them everyone...time for them to pay
Great work Network guys/girls! Go hard! Remember the chairman just gave himself a 32% payrise or something ridiculous
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 06:40
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98% for PIA according to an afap email. Stick it to them everyone...time for them to pay
Thats an absolute embarrassment to the company negotiators and shows a complete lack of understanding of the situation.

A level of incompetence like that should really result in anyone involved in the company’s side of negotiation be stood aside and fresh people brought in.

Looks like 1 Pilot (out of 211) voted ‘No’ to a lot of the questions - imagine being that person…
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 09:03
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Those results make the Network GM / CP look like an absolute fool.
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 10:45
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Network - the hero's we need and deserve.

Get everything guys, you are setting the standard for everyone!
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 11:15
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If a stop work happens, wouldn't it be a shame if there was a "qantas flu" going round on that day for the rest of the pilot cohort at QF
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 11:54
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If a stop work happens, wouldn't it be a shame if there was a "qantas flu" going round on that day for the rest of the pilot cohort at QF
Would work both ways if you SH guys decided to have a stop work meeting during your negotiations I’m sure.
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 11:56
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If a stop work happens, wouldn't it be a shame if there was a "qantas flu" going round on that day for the rest of the pilot cohort at QF
Wishful thinking, but I doubt mainline pilots will risk their careers to save Network drivers. Human nature will ultimately always prevail.
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 11:58
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Wishful thinking, but I doubt mainline pilots will risk their careers to save Network drivers. Human nature will ultimately always prevail.
the way I see it Mainline are the threatened species here. They might fine themselves defending their jobs and what comes around goes around
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 12:03
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In this cost of living crisis they’ll be more likely to be licking their chops at the increased overtime pay and short-term financial gain. A few pruners will also need to justify their posts claiming they can earn 300-400K a year if they ‘work hard’.
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Old 26th Sep 2023, 13:00
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Mainline has trouble crewing it’s own flights atm let alone any Network overflow
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Old 27th Sep 2023, 04:55
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Wishful thinking, but I doubt mainline pilots will risk their careers to save Network drivers. Human nature will ultimately always prevail.
Reckon we just might. Attitudes have changed a fair bit and most the guys and gals are up for a bit of a fight.
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Old 27th Sep 2023, 06:19
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I’m not sure which day they’ll need covering, but I’m busy.
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Old 27th Sep 2023, 06:38
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I’m not sure which day they’ll need covering, but I’m busy.
4th October I hear
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Old 27th Sep 2023, 09:09
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4th October I hear
busy.
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Old 27th Sep 2023, 09:25
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https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers...0230926-p5e7rv

A QantasLink spokeswoman said AFAP’s step towards industrial action was “disappointing” as the airline had offered “significant” pay rises and more guaranteed days off each roster period.

“We have already reached in-principle agreement with the two other unions representing Network Aviation pilots, and we’re continuing to negotiate in good faith to secure new agreements with our turboprop pilots,” she said.

“If the union proceeds with industrial action, we have contingency plans to minimise disruptions to customers.”
I wonder what her definition of "Significant pay rise" is?
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Old 27th Sep 2023, 09:38
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I wonder what her definition of "Significant pay rise" is?
Wasn’t Goyder’s pay increase over the last financial year 38%? That should be the minimum pay rise demanded by any frontline worker going forwards, you know, the actual people who generate revenue, not the shiny bums in head office.
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Old 27th Sep 2023, 10:34
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​​​​A QantasLink spokeswoman said AFAP’s step towards industrial action was “disappointing” as the airline had offered “significant” pay rises and more guaranteed days off each roster period.

“We have already reached in-principle agreement with the two other unions representing Network Aviation pilots, and we’re continuing to negotiate in good faith to secure new agreements with our turboprop pilots,” she said.

“If the union proceeds with industrial action, we have contingency plans to minimise disruptions to customers.”
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What she omits to mention is the fact that this “significant” pay rise fails to compensate crew for the loss of over all income thanks to pay freezes etc. It is a blatant untruth that this is a significant pay rise, it’s not.

AFAP’s step towards industrial action is both a result of the members sentiments towards this offer and the climate in which we live and work. A climate that for the first time in decades, benefits pilots instead of the company. If they were smart, they would throw the old playbook away and employ professional a negotiation standard.
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