Fire Fighting 737 Crashed in WA
Cool heads and more than a few ounces of luck. So glad to see they live to fight another day.Certainly that airframe is scrap.
The only civilian jet airliner I can recall living to fly again was a Japan Airlines DC8-62 that ditched in fog 2.5 miles short in SFO in1968. It was rebuilt and flew on for another 33 years.
The only civilian jet airliner I can recall living to fly again was a Japan Airlines DC8-62 that ditched in fog 2.5 miles short in SFO in1968. It was rebuilt and flew on for another 33 years.
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As said earlier TACA flight 110, a 737, also landed off field and returned to service, even being flown out from a nearby road.
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As said earlier TACA flight 110, a 737, also landed off field and returned to service, even being flown out from a nearby road.
A bit like the Gimli drag strip.
From ABC News: "DFES and the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) are both conducting separate investigations into the crash. In a statement, the ATSB said it was assembling a team from its Perth and Canberra offices with experience in aircraft operations and maintenance, human factors and data recovery to conduct the "evidence-collection phase" of the investigation. "Initially, investigators will seek to interview the pilots and witnesses to understand the circumstances of the accident, and determine the accessibility of the accident site with the aim of conducting an on-site examination of the aircraft wreckage," the statement said. "The scope of the investigation and its time frame will be determined as the ATSB builds its understanding of the nature of the accident."
It couldn't be that ATSB's decisions to investigate are affected by the extent of media interest in accidents, could it?
Bit of ahead scratcher, this one from Perth Now:
One was a man, and the other... a hamster???
Speaking of bent fuselages, does a golf course in BKK count as "off airport"? If so, then there was a 747 that flew again after a round or two...
St John WA said it was believed the pilots, one a man, were not seriously injured but would be assessed to see if they need to be flown to Perth for medical treatment.
One was a man, and the other... a hamster???
Speaking of bent fuselages, does a golf course in BKK count as "off airport"? If so, then there was a 747 that flew again after a round or two...
I’m also more than a little surprised the world’s best aviation journalist hasn’t popped up with a few “insights”…
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What is the slowest airspeed that aircraft could have been travelling at in controlled flight, if it had ditched all it's retardant?
I'm trying to understand how fast they may have been travelling if it was a forced landing - so to speak.
Remarkable...
I'm trying to understand how fast they may have been travelling if it was a forced landing - so to speak.
Remarkable...
From logansi:
A similar policy in South Australia - two SEATs (AT 820s) and two observation helis are dispatched on the first alarm to any grass fire (or similar). In my observation probably 20% of these dispatches are "cancelled" whilst en route to the incident with a 'not required" pager message. We don't see LATs very often in SA. There are none based here, but they can be requested from interstate if needed. We've now got a couple of converted Blackhawks in our fleet - very useful in specific situations.
The question is asked in respect of this WA accident: "What is the mission here?" It's a good question.
Ever since the Black Saturday Royal Commission there has been an big focus in Australia on keeping fires small and hitting them hard as fast. It's why Victoria now uses what is called PDD (Pre-determined dispatch) where aircraft are deployed to all Grass and Scrub fires at the same time as the first truck. (If you call 000 an aircraft will respond).
The question is asked in respect of this WA accident: "What is the mission here?" It's a good question
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Gee. No lives lost. No fare paying passengers involved. Inherently risky activity. What happened to ATSB's 'long standing policy'?
It couldn't be that ATSB's decisions to investigate are affected by the extent of media interest in accidents, could it?
It couldn't be that ATSB's decisions to investigate are affected by the extent of media interest in accidents, could it?
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Given they're based in BQB, any largish fire would surely be used as an opportunity to keep up the skills, even if it wasn't necessarily 'warranted' by life/property? I mean you don't want them sitting there until the 'Big One' comes with no recent 'in the field(air)' runs? IIRC this aircraft was here last year and help stopped a large fire in the Perth hills being much much worse... sister's place was in the danger zone, they were minutes away from having to leave when the call came through the LAT had changed the severity of the situation
But let's hope the ATSB comes up with some 'takeaways' that folks flying for the airlines will consider relevant.
2 crashes within the span of 3 years, whilst doing similar activities. Hmmmmmm.
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