QF144 Auckland to Sydney engine out

[Foxxster]

Just reported, about 30 minutes out from Sydney. Reported one engine out. Currently at 20,000 feet at about 370 knots.

[SITTINGBULL]

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[Stationair8]

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[VHOED191006]

New poster, long time lurker, not affiliated with the media at all (am watching the dramatization of this flight ). However, I curious to know as to whether or not it is SOP there to declare a mayday if you lose an engine during ETOPS ops?

[Advance]

QAL 34L YSSY 0426, now on the gate

[ControlLock]

From track log details, appears to have failed shortly after TOC with a long gradual drift down all the way across the Tasman into YSSY.

[RodH]

Fear not fellow aviation enthusiasts!
Our Aviation Expert, "GT", will soon tell us exactly what happened and why.
I can hardly wait to read his words of wisdom.

[Nuasea]

Engine out

There was a time when diverting to the nearest airfield was considered the thing to do.

[SHVC]

Maybe they were out of NZ arrival cards and their Aus border force was already filled out.

[Kiwiconehead]

Originally Posted by ControlLock

From track log details, appears to have failed shortly after TOC with a long gradual drift down all the way across the Tasman into YSSY.

Yeah nah

[morno]

Originally Posted by ControlLock

From track log details, appears to have failed shortly after TOC with a long gradual drift down all the way across the Tasman into YSSY.

Hmmm, I highly doubt that, because you can’t exactly go EDTO with an engine failure…

[TimmyTee]

Originally Posted by morno

Hmmm, I highly doubt that, because you are not meant to go EDTO with an engine failure…

I’m pretty sure you can if you really want to

[Capn Bloggs]

Originally Posted by ControlLock

From track log details, appears to have failed shortly after TOC with a long gradual drift down all the way across the Tasman into YSSY.

Show us your data to verify, or do you seriously think the line between the end of the ADS-B return from NZ and the start of the AUS ADS-B return is what the aeroplane did?

[pct085]

"Nearest" - you need to be careful working that one out....

Originally Posted by Nuasea

There was a time when diverting to the nearest airfield was considered the thing to do.

If this engine out occcured at cruise, don't you need to factor in the costs of turning around to distance travelled and time in the air? An engine out during cruise is at speed so I imagine you can't just "turn around". I anticipate the "nearest airfield" in distance at the moment of failure may not be the "nearest airfield" in travel distance or time in the air. It may well be that SYD was the "nearest".

[Angle of Attack]

The engine failure didn’t occur TOC, it was pretty much half way across so close to the CP.

[stillcallozhome]

Originally Posted by tornspar

Why is an engine failure a mayday ?QF sop?

Ah - the good old mayday vs pan debate. Go Austranauts!!!

[Ascend Charlie]

I see that Ch 7 is now favouring Discrepancy to GT for Expert Opinion.

[aussieflyboy]

Originally Posted by stillcallozhome

Ah - the good old mayday vs pan debate. Go Austranauts!!!

Its not a debate in Aus mate. Do you want fire trucks and ambos from all over town at the airport or do you just want the airport fire trucks.

[SandyPalms]

Downgraded to PAN. These people are so incredibly lucky, as the captain was a cadet, presumably it could only have been information passed onto the aircraft by an ex GA guy that saved the day. Phew! (Sarcasm) I hope I never have to see one for real.

[Ollie Onion]

I think a Mayday is appropriate in 3rd world ATC environments, OZ certainly qualifies as that.