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Old 18th Jan 2023, 06:03
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Originally Posted by RodH
Fear not fellow aviation enthusiasts!
Our Aviation Expert, "GT", will soon tell us exactly what happened and why.
I can hardly wait to read his words of wisdom.
He could beam his expert and unbiased opinion in from the Chairmans Lounge after getting his membership extended by naming QF the world's safest airline.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 06:10
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Was this QF Tech Crew or Jetconnect?
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 06:12
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Its not a debate in Aus mate. Do you want fire trucks and ambos from all over town at the airport or do you just want the airport fire trucks.
not a debate
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 06:14
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"A visible hole in one of the plane's engines. Inner sections of the engine were exposed." - Herald Sun with pictures of Engine 2's reversers deployed.

The media in this country has become an embarrassment.

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Old 18th Jan 2023, 06:52
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There’s a big chunk of sky out in the middle of the Tasman with no ADSB coverage. What you are seeing is FR24 / FlightAware joining the dots between cruising altitude as they left coverage and cruising altitude when they entered coverage approaching Aus. Given they continued to Sydney, it’s a safe bet it happened at or after their ETP.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 07:05
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
I think a Mayday is appropriate in 3rd world ATC environments, OZ certainly qualifies as that.

Hahaha, I can just imagine ATC responding to a PAN with “will advise”

edit: that was a joke by the way, just in case we have any ATC guys and girls on here.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 07:07
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Well done Daily Telegraph. I see QF have outsourced its cabin crew to JQ now also.

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Old 18th Jan 2023, 07:33
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Well done Daily Telegraph.

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so, all the other 737s I see landing every day with BOTH engines like that must have had a DOUBLE ENGINE FAILURE!
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 07:43
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It wasn’t a “Mayday”. It was a “Rare Mayday”.

It’s like difference between an ordinary Wallaby and an endangered Rock Wallaby.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 07:49
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Originally Posted by ControlLock
From track log details, appears to have failed shortly after TOC with a long gradual drift down all the way across the Tasman into YSSY.
Certainly looks that way. The QRH used to say on the last line "LAND AT NEAREST SUITABLE AIRPORT"
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 07:58
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Originally Posted by deja vu
Certainly looks that way. The QRH used to say on the last line "LAND AT NEAREST SUITABLE AIRPORT"
For those not listening and just speculating on random info they find on the internet, it didn’t happen at top of climb.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 08:04
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TOC just happened to coincide with Flight Radar losing ADSB data, when the aircraft was then identified on the OZ side it had started a descent, the graph is just a linear plot between the two points. So it did not lose an engine just after TOC and the 1 hour before arrival seems to fit nicely with the data.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 08:06
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Angel

G'Day Mr 'A',


Good to see you're still 'up' wif ya 'Q' codes.....


Possibly in order......Hey YSSY, QF '****tyknickers', QHH ?, QGP ? QFO ?.......


Cheeerrrsss.....
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 08:20
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These Rare Maydays are usually declared at or near TOC, because that’s usually where the [deleted for security reasons] fails - the prolonged climb exacerbates duractance flux in the compressor phase in the high-bypass engines fitted to the 737.

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Old 18th Jan 2023, 08:31
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I think a Mayday is appropriate in 3rd world ATC environments, OZ certainly qualifies as that.
​​​​​​​Double Like or Super Like.Well done, accurate assessment.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 08:39
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
These Rare Maydays are usually declared at or near TOC, because that’s usually where the Turbo Encabulator fails - the prolonged climb exacerbates duractance flux in the compressor phase in the high-bypass engines fitted to the 737.
Yes but what was the actual reason for this engine failure?
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 08:50
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Based on what we know so far, [deleted for security reasons] failure is the most likely cause. It’s about time the high-bypass engines on the 737 fleet were upgraded.

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Old 18th Jan 2023, 09:20
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
These Rare Maydays are usually declared at or near TOC, because that’s usually where the Turbo Encabulator fails - the prolonged climb exacerbates duractance flux in the compressor phase in the high-bypass engines fitted to the 737.
You know you're not supposed to be talking about the encabulators - in a forum where the meia might read about it. It was in the NOTAMs last week. You'd better delete the post before someone gets the wrong end of the stick.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 09:23
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Good point. References deleted.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 09:26
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Marsal vanes on the flux detractor. There has been a spate of those failing recently which puts the engine into sinus-o delta configuration.
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