Luggage left behind by Air NZ's first non-stop flight from NY
2 more 789s due which carry 80 less seats and skew premium heavy.
787-10 replaces the 777, however I don’t think Boeing has signed off on the HGW -10 yet, otherwise they will likely run into problems trans pacific throughout the year, if they plan to carry full pax and cargo.
777X is probably the ideal contender for the pacific crossing if you want to go heavy pax and cargo, what century that launches in remains to be seen.
787-10 replaces the 777, however I don’t think Boeing has signed off on the HGW -10 yet, otherwise they will likely run into problems trans pacific throughout the year, if they plan to carry full pax and cargo.
777X is probably the ideal contender for the pacific crossing if you want to go heavy pax and cargo, what century that launches in remains to be seen.
ULR Configured 787-9's will also have the GEnx engines which are more efficient than the Rollers.
Been told the HGW 787-10's has been finalized as in we've been given the figures.
COVID's thrown a real spanner in the works however. Rumors have it we're looking for more 777's to Lease as Boeing have had real QC issues with 787 deliveries and there's no way the -200's can come back so we're short on frames.
Probably should have chosen the A350 as it's a better ULR Aircraft, but that would of introduced yet another fleet for select routes.
Suppose Long term the A350 could a 777 replacement, but I believe the goal is still to be 100% 787's in a variety of configurations.
Apparently 20 pax were offered $1500US each to voluntarily remain behind in the last day or two. Two pax, the current PM and a former PM weren’t offered the opportunity. 
Cargo may be offloaded first but certain non passenger load, mail for instance, may be the last to be offloaded.
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777X is to big apparently... for us anyway.
ULR Configured 787-9's will also have the GEnx engines which are more efficient than the Rollers.
Been told the HGW 787-10's has been finalized as in we've been given the figures.
COVID's thrown a real spanner in the works however. Rumors have it we're looking for more 777's to Lease as Boeing have had real QC issues with 787 deliveries and there's no way the -200's can come back so we're short on frames.
Probably should have chosen the A350 as it's a better ULR Aircraft, but that would of introduced yet another fleet for select routes.
Suppose Long term the A350 could a 777 replacement, but I believe the goal is still to be 100% 787's in a variety of configurations.
ULR Configured 787-9's will also have the GEnx engines which are more efficient than the Rollers.
Been told the HGW 787-10's has been finalized as in we've been given the figures.
COVID's thrown a real spanner in the works however. Rumors have it we're looking for more 777's to Lease as Boeing have had real QC issues with 787 deliveries and there's no way the -200's can come back so we're short on frames.
Probably should have chosen the A350 as it's a better ULR Aircraft, but that would of introduced yet another fleet for select routes.
Suppose Long term the A350 could a 777 replacement, but I believe the goal is still to be 100% 787's in a variety of configurations.
ANZ might need that 6 ton weight increase rumours claim Boeing is working on for the 787.
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Paint seems to be peeling off the 787s as well.. interesting pics from Jetstar recently!
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It's the sort of amateur hour I've come to expect from NZ.
Plan to a mid point destination but fill the tanks full of fuel (e.g. Nadi), depending on the burn either splash and dash or replan the destination as Auckland. Also, until you've flow it a bit and got real world data, be conservative and block out seats.
This should never happen.
Plan to a mid point destination but fill the tanks full of fuel (e.g. Nadi), depending on the burn either splash and dash or replan the destination as Auckland. Also, until you've flow it a bit and got real world data, be conservative and block out seats.
This should never happen.
It's the sort of amateur hour I've come to expect from NZ.
Plan to a mid point destination but fill the tanks full of fuel (e.g. Nadi), depending on the burn either splash and dash or replan the destination as Auckland. Also, until you've flow it a bit and got real world data, be conservative and block out seats.
This should never happen.
Plan to a mid point destination but fill the tanks full of fuel (e.g. Nadi), depending on the burn either splash and dash or replan the destination as Auckland. Also, until you've flow it a bit and got real world data, be conservative and block out seats.
This should never happen.
None, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't. For me, the worst part of losing a bag is queuing up at the end of the flight at an understaffed kiosk when you are tired and just want to get home / to your hotel. If this could be avoided then that would lessen the problem no end. Walk out, get bags delivered later. Even without the lost bag, I would probably pay extra for this as an option when flying home!
BA hands out prepaid credit cards at the carousel if they know that your bag didn't get on the flight. They proactively call out the passengers, at least in the US.
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What range of BOW/DOW do ANZ's existing 787 fleet have? What's the actual payload restriction when departing out of JFK? And what MTOW do they even have, because the values from the NZ Aircraft Register makes no sense for such flights.
None, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't. For me, the worst part of losing a bag is queuing up at the end of the flight at an understaffed kiosk when you are tired and just want to get home / to your hotel. If this could be avoided then that would lessen the problem no end. Walk out, get bags delivered later. Even without the lost bag, I would probably pay extra for this as an option when flying home!
When it was more than 5 or 6, such as above, we would announce it then go around and quickly write down the address for each passenger. We didn't need to have their bag tag numbers unless they had something taken at the gate and Limited Release tagged - once the pax were out of the building, someone in the office would pull a passenger list by bag tag(s) on the flight that had just arrived, ex the overseas port, then do tag number traces and create a file for each passenger and put in the address they provided.
Making people queue up while you fill out a full baggage report in these circumstances is stupid and ridiculous because we already KNOW where the bags are!!
I recall riding the trans Pacific non stop in the very early days, LAX to SY non stop was the schedule on the early 747SP, used to stop at Nandi for a quick splash if fuel was on the short side due unfavourable winds, turn around was quick. Great circle track JFK to AUK passes 160nm abeam Tahiti, not an option? When I used to take these long flights the landing point was not my destination, it was off to connect to two subsequent flights usually, my bags not making it would have caused the out break of WWIII. 
But you are right, my recollection though was it was pretty rare for the SP to have to divert.
It's the sort of amateur hour I've come to expect from NZ.
Plan to a mid point destination but fill the tanks full of fuel (e.g. Nadi), depending on the burn either splash and dash or replan the destination as Auckland. Also, until you've flow it a bit and got real world data, be conservative and block out seats.
This should never happen.
Plan to a mid point destination but fill the tanks full of fuel (e.g. Nadi), depending on the burn either splash and dash or replan the destination as Auckland. Also, until you've flow it a bit and got real world data, be conservative and block out seats.
This should never happen.
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Return the plane to white paint scheme and gain approx 250kgs back. (its a start)
Yes black paint is heavier due to the pigmentation required.
Yes black paint is heavier due to the pigmentation required.
