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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 23:56
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Toll freighters

Heard a rumour last night that the Toll freighters had been grounded.
I couldn't see any airborne during a quick check of FR24 around 2300 (EST).
Grounding - fact or fiction?
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 01:25
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Fact.
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 02:02
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Any one know the reason why?

This must be having a huge effect on the Toll Priority operation…….
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737's or 146 ????
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All Airwork 737s, including the NZ fleet.
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Hmm!!! Something like a paperwork issue that grounded the Ansett 767's a long time ago?
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Cracks. 73s, Both sides of the ditch grounded.
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Cracks. 73s, Both sides of the ditch grounded.
Some of their 737-300/400Fs are 31-32 years old.
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Anyone started planning fleet replacements yet? It’s a 3-5 year wait for 320/1F as well as 737-800F.

Or do they think these pieces of junk will go another 5 plus years?
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
Some of their 737-300/400Fs are 31-32 years old.
Younger then most 210s and 402s in Aus… Similar age to most F100s in Aus and they’re slated for passenger operation until 2030
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yep, Australia really is 3rd world aviation
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy View Post
Younger then most 210s and 402s in Aus… Similar age to most F100s in Aus and they’re slated for passenger operation until 2030
same age as all the saabs in Aus
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy View Post
Younger then most 210s and 402s in Aus… Similar age to most F100s in Aus and they’re slated for passenger operation until 2030
Comparing a high cycle jet to a light unpressurised aircraft isn’t valid. As far as the F100 goes…I imagine that the 737s have twice the cycles. When they were young they flew 10+ hours every day for 20 years. Also the Fokker seems to be a more robust airframe.
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus View Post
Comparing a high cycle jet to a light unpressurised aircraft isn’t valid. As far as the F100 goes…I imagine that the 737s have twice the cycles. When they were young they flew 10+ hours every day for 20 years. Also the Fokker seems to be a more robust airframe.
And has obvious and available replacements, which is what is happening. Airwork has realised it needs to replace the classics. Problem is, they need to replace them now, but as Papajoe said, there is a years long wait for freighter conversations.
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Airwork have pilots who have flown the NG and even one who has flown the MAX, they all say the 400 is the nicest one to fly.
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Yes, I get that. I was commenting on the implied idea that you could somehow continue to operate geriatric jets well past their scrap-by date.

Anyway, I hope its something that can be repaired to keep them going until replacements arrive.

The 400 is by far the nicest to fly. Actually, the 200 was pretty nice too.
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Is Holgate ( ex Aust post ceo ) now running Toll Global . There is a dispute between Aust post and Toll Global . Is it Toll global the operator of these 737? What a small place Australia is. .
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Originally Posted by KAPAC View Post
Is Is it Toll global the operator of these 737? .
No. Airwork NZ operate the aircraft on an ACMI contract to Toll.
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Airwork have pilots who have flown the NG and even one who has flown the MAX, they all say the 400 is the nicest one to fly.
No cabin crew and no self loading freight.

Perfect.
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Originally Posted by witwiw View Post
Heard a rumour last night that the Toll freighters had been grounded.
I couldn't see any airborne during a quick check of FR24 around 2300 (EST).
Grounding - fact or fiction?
737 Perth -Melbourne landed Wednesday morning.
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