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Old 9th Aug 2022, 01:58
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Well, first cab off the rank to vote in favour of protected industrial action is DNATA. Not even a personal visit by none other than Alan Joyce himself could deter these ramp staff from voting in favour for better pay. Read the room Alan.

Today the ballot closes for LAMEs from Qantas, Jetstar and Alliance. I would say there is a better than fair chance that all 3 of these ballots will be yes votes.

The industry needs this. AJ and his cronies are a cancer on Australian aviation, and nothing will hurt him more than a reduction in his bonuses.
Rex Saab pilots have already completed a round of PIA also. Too little too late in terms of pilot retention, though. Those who stay will have a somewhat palatable EBA.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 03:12
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Rex Saab pilots have already completed a round of PIA also. Too little too late in terms of pilot retention, though. Those who stay will have a somewhat palatable EBA.
what actions did they take, and what changes did it result in Rex agreeing to?
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 03:28
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Originally Posted by TimmyTee View Post
what actions did they take, and what changes did it result in Rex agreeing to?
Tankering ban where operationally safe. It costs a bit of coin filling up on every sector on the all stops to Mt Isa.

The company was refusing to negotiate and now they've come to the table after two weeks of uplifting fuel at outports. They're offering 1 extra RDO per month, CPI within 2-4. Backpay still needs to be negotiated but it's a lot better than what the company originally offered. 20 odd pilots quit last week. Just under 10% of the seniority list.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 09:18
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PROTECTED Industrial Action surely, not 'protection'.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 09:25
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Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli View Post
If safety is the issue that really bothers the TWU how about instead of short notice strikes that alienate the public (and possibly spawn more right wing voters) they work to force capacity caps on airlines and airports until they lift their game? The Poms appear to have done this.
50 or 60% on time performance is simply not acceptable. Cut back service until 90% is assured - of course the unions have to play a part in delivering this, too.
We know money is also an issue, and probably the root issue, but ain’t that the case for most of us now?
Where the TWU us concerned, anyone who's been in the industry for 20 years or more remembers that the union milked it for everything it was worth with unreasonable demands, unreasonable roster demands, snap strikes, stop-works and on one occasion in MEL many years ago, walking off the job to protect someone who the police were interviewing over having allegedly, with someone from CS, extorted passengers out of cash to waive excess baggage.

That was a rare case, but regardless of the legality of the QF action, that particular work group caused untold damage to the brand over many, many years, even going back to government ownership.

It's a little hard to have sympathy now that the boot is on the other foot. Hate good people losing their jobs but it's not like this was 15 year olds down a mine, it was bordering on a sheltered workshop at times.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 09:26
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Of course he will,the 'always right' attitude starts right at the top & goes right down through the management chain.
They have no respect for anybody & over the years all of the employee goodwill has been eroded due to the actions of the parasites running this company.
No opinion of AD but what if the HC doesn't uphold the lower court's decision?? It works both ways, will the union be saying the HC got it wrong??

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Old 9th Aug 2022, 11:26
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective View Post
No option of AD but what if the HC doesn't uphold the lower court's decision?? It works both ways, will the union be saying the HC got it wrong??
Hard to say. Let's wait and see what the HC says and go from there. At this stage it's 2-Zip in favour of TWU.

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Old 13th Aug 2022, 08:01
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Originally Posted by Bootstrap1 View Post
Well, first cab off the rank to vote in favour of protected industrial action is DNATA. Not even a personal visit by none other than Alan Joyce himself could deter these ramp staff from voting in favour for better pay. Read the room Alan.

Today the ballot closes for LAMEs from Qantas, Jetstar and Alliance. I would say there is a better than fair chance that all 3 of these ballots will be yes votes.

The industry needs this. AJ and his cronies are a cancer on Australian aviation, and nothing will hurt him more than a reduction in his bonuses.
The LAMEs from all 3 groups have said YES in a big way & now of course the management mouth pieces have came out saying work bans etc are unreasonable as meetings are scheduled.
We all know what management brings to these meetings,BS,BS & more BS.
100 % agree with AJ & his cronies being a cancer & they all need to be shown up for exactly what they are,a self entitled mob of bullies who think they are above every industrial law & agreement which suddenly doesnt suit them any more.
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 11:55
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Qantas Jetstar and Network LAMEs begin their PIA campaign tomorrow with 1 minute stoppages at the beginning of shifts. Knowing Qantas and co it will get nasty.
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 18:33
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Would be good if their unions supplied a brief PA that we could make when delayed due to the action.

‘Folks, due to the lack of action by management in helping our friends in the aircraft maintenance department we will be delayed by approx xxx minutes. As pilots we fully support our engineering friends and wish them well in their endeavours of achieving fair and equitable working conditions”
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 21:21
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Would be good if their unions supplied a brief PA that we could make when delayed due to the action.

‘Folks, due to the lack of action by management in helping our friends in the aircraft maintenance department we will be delayed by approx xxx minutes. As pilots we fully support our engineering friends and wish them well in their endeavours of achieving fair and equitable working conditions”
That would certainly be good however i believe there is no doubt it would be looked on as unprotected industrial action & thats probably nowhere any union or employee wants to go right now.
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 21:24
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Well that’s a little more than wearing red ties….and remember Alan shut Qantas down over that, saying it was for safety!!!
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From the abc https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-...sult/101368062

Starting with1 minute strikes to validate commencement of protected action.

"Mark" in the article is 100% spot on. Engineering has been gutted of people, parts and infrastructure. Facilities are from the middle of last century. Compared to "The Street" they're medieval.





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Old 25th Aug 2022, 08:04
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From the abc https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-...sult/101368062

Starting with1 minute strikes to validate commencement of protected action.

"Mark" in the article is 100% spot on. Engineering has been gutted of people, parts and infrastructure. Facilities are from the middle of last century. Compared to "The Street" they're medieval.
He certainly is spot on,just on the stands issue,ask any of the guys how much time is wasted looking for 1 & when you tell a manager,all you get is how much money they have spent on equipment.
Make sure when u are driving around looking for that invisible piece of equipment that all airport speed limits are adhered to,Take 5!
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