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Old 15th Jun 2022, 02:25
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Originally Posted by Paragraph377 View Post
Since taking the helm he has earned approximately $120m. That’s salary, share options, bonuses and other perks. That in itself is an absolute joke.
In one year alone he 'earned'/was paid many multiples more than the highest earning non-executive employees (senior pilots) earn in a 35 year career.

Surely now the board are at least asking questions of the senior executive…...
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 02:30
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Originally Posted by C441 View Post
In one year alone he 'earned'/was paid many multiples more than the highest earning non-executive employees (senior pilots) earn in a 35 year career.

Surely now the board are at least asking questions of the senior executive…...
Yeah like, "When are you having us round to check out your new pad?"
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 08:01
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer View Post
Yeah like, "When are you having us round to check out your new pad?"
Spot on i reckon,board & ceo are as bad as each other,they tell each other what a great job they do & how they have each others full support,blah,blah,blah.
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Old 16th Jun 2022, 05:43
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Surely now the board are at least asking questions of the senior executive…...
My reference was more that despite being paid many millions, the senior executives are presiding over deteriorating service levels and public opinion. Surely the board must be asking why the Qantas brand (and the CEO in particular although personally I don't normal utter his name and the brand in the same sentence) is suffering so much negative publicity and what's being done to turn that around - even if it's only out of curiosity.
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 05:56
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Some more shuffling at JQ. Now that QF have made a motza from Jobkeeper and paid down $2.8b in debt, the executives are receiving their bonuses hence the reason Gareth Evans and Gerry Turner are cashing in. Embarrassingly M. Franzi the QF Safety Manager, a kid that has spent no practical time in any field other than sitting behind a desk, becomes JQ’s COO. Aagh well, got to hand it to Joyce - he doesn’t look after the customers or the broader Qantas staff, but he sure does look after his executives.
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 05:59
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Originally Posted by Paragraph377 View Post
Some more shuffling at JQ. Now that QF have made a motza from Jobkeeper and paid down $2.8b in debt, the executives are receiving their bonuses hence the reason Gareth Evans and Gerry Turner are cashing in. Embarrassingly M. Franzi the QF Safety Manager, a kid that has spent no practical time in any field other than sitting behind a desk, becomes JQ’s COO. Aagh well, got to hand it to Joyce - he doesn’t look after the customers or the broader Qantas staff, but he sure does look after his executives.
He will do exactly as he is told & ask no questions.
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 08:11
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Talk about no accountability, the two people responsible for the current chaos, instead of fixing their monumental stuff up and mismanagement, gets promoted to another position.

chief operating officer Andrew Monaghan is now executive manager Group Safety, Risk and Security


Rachel Yangoyan (Executive Manager, Customer Experience & Operations) has been appointed to the newly-created role of executive manager aircraft programs, seeing in the new a321's and a220's


much back slapping going on, good job and bonusus all around.
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 08:21
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Reminds me of the military adage for a useless leader, post or promote.
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 08:51
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Originally Posted by unobtanium View Post
Talk about no accountability, the two people responsible for the current chaos, instead of fixing their monumental stuff up and mismanagement, gets promoted to another position.

chief operating officer Andrew Monaghan is now executive manager Group Safety, Risk and Security


Rachel Yangoyan (Executive Manager, Customer Experience & Operations) has been appointed to the newly-created role of executive manager aircraft programs, seeing in the new a321's and a220's


much back slapping going on, good job and bonusus all around.
Executive managers huh,as you say the back slapping never stops & they believe what a great job they are doing.
If they worked in a real business instead of a cost centre & their employment relied on customer feedback they too would have been on jobkeeper or tossed out on their useless ass.
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Old 26th Jun 2022, 06:16
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Just picked up a mate at Sunshine Coast off QF from Sydney. Exactly 20 pax bags not arrived. Good Job Alan. All under your watch mate.
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Old 26th Jun 2022, 07:55
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Originally Posted by Trevor the lover View Post
Just picked up a mate at Sunshine Coast off QF from Sydney. Exactly 20 pax bags not arrived. Good Job Alan. All under your watch mate.
Things are getting better he says! I guess there will be a manager somewhere eligible for a bonus now as -20 bags will be seen as a job well done.🤦‍♂️
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Old 26th Jun 2022, 10:32
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Originally Posted by unobtanium View Post
Talk about no accountability, the two people responsible for the current chaos, instead of fixing their monumental stuff up and mismanagement, gets promoted to another position.

chief operating officer Andrew Monaghan is now executive manager Group Safety, Risk and Security


Rachel Yangoyan (Executive Manager, Customer Experience & Operations) has been appointed to the newly-created role of executive manager aircraft programs, seeing in the new a321's and a220's


much back slapping going on, good job and bonusus all around.
Both of those are lesser roles. AM is a clear demotion, RY is sideways to less important role (ie one you can’t #### up too much and make the news).

Talent pool must be pretty shallow to be hanging on to them.
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Old 26th Jun 2022, 20:48
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Originally Posted by Potsie Weber View Post
Talent pool must be pretty shallow to be hanging on to them.
I think the talent pool is deep, management just prefer to surround themselves with incompetence and pliability. When was the last time someone was given an operationally complex management position because they actually know what they’re doing?
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Old 27th Jun 2022, 02:03
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probaby written by a uni grad intern straight from the textbook hr communication's for dummie's
Across the Qantas Group, we have an incredible depth of leadership talent thanks to our track record of providing strong career development and progression, balanced with attracting the industry’s top talent.

Today we want to update you on some leadership appointments which will position us for the future as our recovery continues. - Andrew, Gareth and John
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Old 27th Jun 2022, 06:43
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Originally Posted by unobtanium View Post
probaby written by a uni grad intern straight from the textbook hr communication's for dummie's
Lucky they have so much talent,just imaging the outcome if they werent so clever!
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Old 28th Jun 2022, 09:44
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https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/06/28...as-alan-joyce/

It’s ‘more reliable to feed $10 bills through a paper shredder than flying with Qantas’
Love seeing Joyce continue to cop it in the media. Surely something has to give sooner or later.
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Old 28th Jun 2022, 10:12
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Originally Posted by cLeArIcE View Post
https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/06/28...as-alan-joyce/
Love seeing Joyce continue to cop it in the media. Surely something has to give sooner or later.
Here’s the thing - the shareholders and the Board of Directors are all making money. While they are making money, they won’t send the pint size CEO packing. None of the bad customer service or any other fault with the airline matters as long as it is making money. They could serve you turds on toast onboard, or make you sit in broken cane chairs in business class, or they could introduce excess baggage fees for anything over 1 kg and Joyce still won’t be rolled. He grounded the international side of the business, remember? He was the public and the shareholders hero.

If he bails in 12 months time his legacy will be;
- he personally earned between $120m and $150m during his 15 year tenure
- he successfully turned a once reputable legacy carrier previously known for impeccable safety standards and quality service into a half-baked ultra low cost carrier;
- he is (and deservedly) one of Australia’s most hated CEO’s. He wins pole position.

Sorry folks, the gnome is coated in teflon. As long as he makes people money (other than his employees) he won’t be going anywhere until HE is good and ready.


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Old 29th Jun 2022, 00:32
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Strap in people, engineers from Qantas, Jetstar and Network are all going to the ballot box to have a vote for protected industrial action. 0,0,2,2% doesn't cut it. Still waiting on the 2018 $2k bonus and now the $5k bonus all tied to an EBA that expired 31Dec 2019. No bargaining in good faith, idiot managers. Sydney engineering is a toxic dumpster fire of poor management couple with a roster that is known by the company to be damaging to people mental health and well-being.

They say the bonuses will only be paid if employees don't do anything to damage the brand. It is hard to care about what they say, threatening to take something away from you that they haven't even given you is pathetic.

It would be a gas to see all LAMEs out on strike all at the same time across all the airlines.
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Old 29th Jun 2022, 00:40
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Sorry folks, the gnome is coated in teflon. As long as he makes people money (other than his employees) he won’t be going anywhere until HE is good and ready.
Absolutely correct, sadly.
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Old 29th Jun 2022, 00:42
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They say the bonuses will only be paid if employees don't do anything to damage the brand.
It’s a good thing for Alan that the same rule of thumb doesn’t apply to him. Otherwise he would never get his bonus.

I reckon 12 months to go and then the Irishman will bail on the back of his huge 2022/23 bonus. Then he will tick another ‘politically correct’ box and put Olivia Wirth in the big chair. He absolutely loves her. Another anti-staff and vindictive human being as CEO.
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