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Old 23rd May 2022, 04:34
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Originally Posted by Ozdork
That doesn’t sound like a compromise, it sounds like shoving the problem somewhere else and letting them suffer, as long you’re ok

I don’t live in BNE, never have, don’t have an investment property or any financial interest there.

Hopefully your blood pressure has dropped since you commented.
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Old 23rd May 2022, 04:36
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100% agree MickG0105 ........I lived in the area for the best part of 10 years. BAC actually did a resonable job of consulting the communtiy and were down at the markets with their interactive bus every weekend. People here just wernt interseted and thought it wouldn't be an issue. Hamilton is a great example of this where people paid well over the top for new appartments that are now directly under the flight path.

As I said to the noise groups (but got trolled off FoolBook for it), instead of pushing for curfews and complaining seek ideas to combat the noise. In the US they insulate houses, sound proofing and adjust flight paths (slightly) to accomodate the community. It's a cheaper and more effective way of dealing with the issue becasue all BAC, Airservices and Airlines see are dollar signs. The bonus with such improvements to the properties is they actually become more livable.

Lastly..........the noise isn't that bad. The d&^kheads partying to 3am on a Thursday night down the road create more issues for my school age children and our quality of life than a 73 going overhead.
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Old 23rd May 2022, 06:23
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"Bo0m" Couldn't agree more. Am so sick and tired of people in these neighbourhoods complaining about this. The 2nd runway has been in the works for decades and there was plenty of consultation, I remember seeing the BNE bus for many months in many areas around Brisbane.

These people that are complaining live within 7km of a major airport and they are complaining about flights. It has done nothing to your house value and generally these are very wealthy areas, maybe invest in double glazing, insulation and other methods to mitigate the noise. Also if you are going to complain about the flights how about you also start complaining about people in their Ferrari's, porches and lambos that drive along kingsford smith drive and crosby road at a 100km/h.

There is barely 10 flights between 2200 and 0600, most of these departures as well are with modern quiet aircraft. What was the point of a second runway if you put in a curfew and limit movements. I also find it interesting with people suggesting everything just take off and depart over the bay. I wonder how eager they will be to be on a flight that has to accept a 10 knot tailwind to avoid taking off into the wind. You also have the Greens saying they are all about climate change, yet they are happy for aircraft to be flying alot more track miles, burning more fuel, all for the sake of not flying over a house at 2,000+ feet.

Stop complaining about progress, or if you don't want any noise then move to the country. And before anyone complains, I used to live in Newstead, had constant construction and pile driving from 6am, 6 days a week. I moved to somewhere closer to the airport and even with the aircraft, its a hell of alot quieter then construction.
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Old 23rd May 2022, 10:27
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what's with boomers and commy panic
You'll find out soon enough
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Old 23rd May 2022, 12:36
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Brizzy airport check in:
“Good morning Mr Jones, off to Phuket I see?”
”Yes. Love a bit of a flight away to an exotic destination to relax.”
”Oh dear, the system shows that you have made quite a few aircraft noise complaints.”
”Yes, well, umm.”
”I am terribly sorry Sir, you have been deemed a sook and are not permitted to fly to or from this airport.
Your booking is hereby canceled.”
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Old 23rd May 2022, 17:27
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With all those newly colored flags in the background of the newly minted PM presser, all you need to do is...
Find artefacts of distant indigenous relatives where the flight path is going to be.
Wouldn't want to disturb them, would we?
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Old 24th May 2022, 12:55
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build airports some distance from the urban area serviced by fast rail and road links,
BNE was and is.
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Old 25th May 2022, 02:06
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Brisbane Airport

All airports have noise. The main airport was approved in the very early 1970's. The second main runway was planned in the early 1980's and work was commenced on it, in 2013. So if you moved into
a suburb under the flight paths or noise area after these dates, your problem!
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Old 10th Jun 2022, 05:42
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We should get serious re new runway. It was not needed 10 years ago, it is not needed now and it will not be needed in 10 years time.
Shut it down!
Curfews, adjusted flight paths etc is mere tinkering.
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Old 10th Jun 2022, 07:02
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Originally Posted by Shot Nancy
Brizzy airport check in:
“Good morning Mr Jones, off to Phuket I see?”
”Yes. Love a bit of a flight away to an exotic destination to relax.”
”Oh dear, the system shows that you have made quite a few aircraft noise complaints.”
”Yes, well, umm.”
”I am terribly sorry Sir, you have been deemed a sook and are not permitted to fly to or from this airport.
Your booking is hereby canceled.”
That would be fantastic.
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Old 10th Jun 2022, 10:05
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Originally Posted by Wingnuts
We should get serious re new runway. It was not needed 10 years ago, it is not needed now and it will not be needed in 10 years time.
Shut it down!
Curfews, adjusted flight paths etc is mere tinkering.
I hope that’s satire
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 00:19
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We should get serious re new runway. It was not needed 10 years ago, it is not needed now and it will not be needed in 10 years time.
Shut it down!
Curfews, adjusted flight paths etc is mere tinkering.
Not needed? Hmm, which airport was most plagued outside of Sydney for RTA's...

But maybe you are right. After all those years of being slowed down and vectored around for an RTA when they were building the new RWY, how many times was something similiar said in flight decks around Australia "Thankfully the new RWY will get rid of these delays".
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 03:53
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It also helps that a lot of houses in that area got sound-insulation, paid for by a noise-levy on tickets.
Pretty sure nothing under the 07 flight path got 'free' noise insulation. Wasn't it only underneath 16L/34R?
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 03:53
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Wait for it…

I’ve had a bit part in early consultation for the parallel runway in MEL. An overriding consideration is noise with a proposal for most approaches from south over the bay. 34L/R to have ILS approaches with airspace changes. Wait for complaints then!
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 22:25
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Originally Posted by tossbag
Pretty sure nothing under the 07 flight path got 'free' noise insulation. Wasn't it only underneath 16L/34R?
True (afaik), but then Mr Johnny Howard decided to 'share the noise'.
(the fact that his electorate was not far from the northern end of 34L i'm sure had nothing to do with that decision)
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 22:51
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Originally Posted by tossbag
Pretty sure nothing under the 07 flight path got 'free' noise insulation. Wasn't it only underneath 16L/34R?
Not true. I was in a shared rental under the 07 flight path. The house DID get free noise insulation, as did all the surrounding houses.
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 13:49
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Was Barry Jones involved?
spaghetti policy.
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