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Old 13th Jul 2022, 05:13
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No they just sit in here and act as keyboard warriors
Hence nothing will change. All talk and no action. Will remain the bottom feeder for a long time to come.
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 03:46
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Umm that was Gina Rineharta saying not Network….
Darwin Broome Port Headland Karratha Newman Kalgoorlie plus a list of FMG mines.

Maybe, but do you reckon they have the capacity for that at the moment (or anytime soon)?
Absolutely but the industrial wedge wouldn't be effective.
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 04:04
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Have things changed much in Network since their last EA?
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 05:17
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Have things changed much in Network since their last EA?
Remuneration wise - not at all. EA expired a few years ago.

In terms of lifestyle and morale - it has indeed changed massively. No prizes for guessing in which direction. Stay far, far away.
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 05:37
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When things were grim during the pandemic every group pilot applied to Network happy to accept the terms. Why no backlash then?

Network has provided plenty of opportunities for its pilots and a much quicker upgrade than any other group airline.

Sure the EBA isn’t the best, but now times are good they definitely have a good argument to fight for more.

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Maybe all their work will go to Cobham, since they quickly signed their EA to get the 'new gear'
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Cobham has not signed an EA. Do you mean NJS, the 717 operator?
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 14:03
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Maybe all their work will go to Cobham, since they quickly signed their EA to get the 'new gear'
I think you’ll find “Cobham’s” (they were an Aussie owned company called NJS before Cobham bought it) recently signed EA is still 20% better then Networks…

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Old 14th Jul 2022, 16:03
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When things were grim during the pandemic every group pilot applied to Network happy to accept the terms. Why no backlash then?
Seriously? That’s probably the dumbest question I’ve ever seen asked in these forums. And that’s saying something.
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I think you’ll find “Cobham’s” (you’ll find they were an Aussie owned company called NJS before Cobham bought it) recently signed EA is still 20% better then Networks…
Fair call, then I would expect Network's EBA to work out significantly better this time then, right?
Perhaps on par with Jetstar?
Considering they fly the same equipment, but with Q full fare pax, it's not that much of a stretch.
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When things were grim during the pandemic every group pilot applied to Network happy to accept the terms. Why no backlash then?
JQ PER base closure yet Network hired from east coast bases - great opportunities indeed.

Network has provided plenty of opportunities for its pilots and a much quicker upgrade than any other group airline.
A charter company was bought out and pumped with expansion. Everyone knows what happened.

Perhaps on par with Jetstar?
Boy oh boy! :-))))))))))))))))))))



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Old 15th Jul 2022, 02:24
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Sounds reasonable from outside.
Jetstar is that low cost bogan airline, and Network is that GA company, now home to just about every Expat throughout the known world.
.....not a stretch to imagine at all Sugar
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Old 15th Jul 2022, 02:26
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Originally Posted by Buttscratcher View Post
Sounds reasonable from outside.
Jetstar is that low cost bogan airline, and Network is that GA company, now home to just about every Expat throughout the known world.
.....not a stretch to imagine at all Sugar
every pilot in the group can only hope.
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Old 15th Jul 2022, 04:18
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When things were grim during the pandemic every group pilot applied to Network happy to accept the terms.

Did they really!? 🤣

The vast majority actually went nowhere near it.

Almost all of Those that did go from QF bailed as soon as they could. A huge percentage of Perth based Jetstar pilots with thousands of hours A320experience who DID want the job and DID want to be there were overlooked…

Must be a great operation.
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Old 15th Jul 2022, 09:26
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Well they all came didn’t they?

They left to go back to their original jobs like anyone would, most weren’t from WA…consider that?

The Perth based JQ pilots was purely political, we all know that. Maybe some of them didn’t do that well in the hiring process?

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Old 15th Jul 2022, 10:00
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Originally Posted by AviatoR21 View Post
Well they all came didn’t they?

They left to go back to their original jobs like anyone would, most weren’t from WA…consider that?

The Perth based JQ pilots was purely political, we all know that. Maybe some of them didn’t do that well in the hiring process?
isn’t that what some would call scabbing
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No, it isn't.
That word is reserved.
In this scenario the position had to be advertised internally didn't it?
Dont know much about this, but under the Q umbrella, all applicants are/were treated equally.
They did boost their wage with Jobkeeper though, so that would have been a plus over the NAA folks.
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Did they really!? 🤣

The vast majority actually went nowhere near it.

Almost all of Those that did go from QF bailed as soon as they could. A huge percentage of Perth based Jetstar pilots with thousands of hours A320experience who DID want the job and DID want to be there were overlooked…

Must be a great operation.
CEO didn’t want any of the PIA troublemakers in the operation so that meant many of the Perth base didn’t get a look in. He said so in various meetings. I thought it stank but that was previous glorious leaders decision.
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CEO didn’t want any of the PIA troublemakers in the operation so that meant many of the Perth base didn’t get a look in. He said so in various meetings. I thought it stank but that was previous glorious leaders decision.
…and so you see, they are $h!t scared of people who might help you organize to agitate for better conditions. Anyone who might rock the boat of the ‘well behaved’ and subservient. Those that dutifully answer the phone on days off to keep the show on the road. You are their industrial wedge and they MUST protect it! No matter what! They know you are well and truly overdue for improvement, and they will do and say anything to prevent you taking an industrial stand to improve.

You’ll have been promised the world, commands on all those new jets you’re getting, but only if you behave! All those NEOs that are definitely comi… oh wait. Never mind.
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Originally Posted by AviatoR21 View Post
When things were grim during the pandemic every group pilot applied to Network happy to accept the terms. Why no backlash then?

Network has provided plenty of opportunities for its pilots and a much quicker upgrade than any other group airline.

Sure the EBA isn’t the best, but now times are good they definitely have a good argument to fight for more.
Hahahaha one of the most delusional posts on PPRuNe ever!

Network is being used an industrial tool to lower the conditions of every Australian pilot. You are the baseline jet EBA. The absolute floor.



In saying that. It is in everyone’s interest in Australian aviation that Network get a significant pay rise with better terms and conditions. You deserve it.

The old QF IR mantra, we have a wage policy of 3%, is about to get a real testing (QF Engineers PIA) and will be hopefully thrown out with as much gusto as some recent toilet paper and eggs were thrown in Mosman.

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