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Old 17th Apr 2022, 23:56
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Originally Posted by Gazza mate
If you want to get political...

Thanks to Scomo, Australia has unemployment at 50-year lows of 4 per cent after the worst recession since the Great Depression. The nation’s rate of economic growth is among the highest of the G20 members, inflation sits at half that of our trading partners, and Australia has had among the lowest Covid death rates in the world and the highest vaccination rates.

Whether you like him or hate him, Scomo’s results speak volumes.

On the other hand, Albo doesn’t know his ass from his elbow. Albo can’t recall what the unemployment or interest rate is and he lied about his economic credentials.
Explain, with diagrams if you like, exactly what scumo did to promote any of that. I have voted, often against my own best interests, for the Libs for 30 years. Never again. Still haven’t decided if I am going to hold my nose and vote ALP.
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Originally Posted by Gazza mate
If you want to get political...

Thanks to Scomo, Australia has unemployment at 50-year lows of 4 per cent after the worst recession since the Great Depression..
And therein lies a point I’m trying to make. Unemployment figures are rubbish. They count people on contracts at a minimum of one hour a week as “fully employed”. They dismiss those who’ve given up looking for work. They don’t count underemployment, or hours per week worked decreasing.

To tie this back into the topic of the thread it’s all well and good for airlines to say “we have employed xxx people” but when those people are on low hour contracts with no guarantees it’s hardly an incentive to put passion into your work. Therefore sick calls increase, productivity decreases and no one answers the phone. And you get situations like what has happened at the terminals in the past few weeks, combined with corporates who refuse to take responsibility for any poor decision on their part.

A job today is increasingly not like a job decades ago. They are temporary, transient, casualised, there’s no loyalty and you are expendable as a piece of rubbish if not required. So when you hear a government tout a low “unemployment rate” or a company tout the fact they have given “jobs” to so many people it’s a just a deflection from the fact that “job” is not of the same worth that it had a few decades ago.

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Old 18th Apr 2022, 01:04
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Dr Dre you are completely correct in what you say about how unemployment is measured.
However as a standard measure, given the limitations, it is still a valid comparison to five, ten or twenty years ago. By that measure we are going okay.
Have a look at the G 20 countries.

Again, tying this back to the thread. Market force would normally work such that when a passenger has a poor experience as there bag was delayed by two days or their check in took four hours they would buy from another provider. That does not work in Australia. Airline management know they have you by the short and curlies.
I used to laugh when the TIGER air TV show was on, all these disgruntled people claiming "I will never fly Tiger again" when you know that the next time they see a $29 fare they are back in.

Edited to add link...https://tradingeconomics.com/country...?continent=g20
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 01:50
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Jeez when Australia’s unemployment rate is the same as Russia’s you know using these unemployment rate figures as a measure of how good it is to have a job in a certain country is BS!

I used to laugh when the TIGER air TV show was on, all these disgruntled people claiming "I will never fly Tiger again" when you know that the next time they see a $29 fare they are back in.
Same with Air Asia. 3 months after the 2014 crash they were advertising “Cheap Fares to Bali!” on Australian media.
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 02:53
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I know the political argument is a thread drift, however I think the political landscape is the very reason there are CEOs around who can gut a company, run it into the ground and then think it’s ok to blame the customer. All CEOs move in political circles and all politicians are susceptible to being swayed by the people in their circles. Liberal, Labour, the Groins and that Palmer thingo are all going to be the same, unfortunately it’s going to be a choice of picking the least sh!tty option, and that’s almost impossible these days.

Interestingly he hasn't blamed the staff, maybe it’s a battle he knows he has already lost.
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 05:21
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I can just hear the MASH theme play as the qantas angels/trolls descend on a negative qantas thread. Another bunch of MEL/SYD cancellations this morning, everything that was getting airborne was running well behind
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Unemployment figures are rubbish.
Tried to get a tradie lately?
Just about any shop you walk into these days have a employment vacancy sign.
There is a shortage of nurses, paramedics, doctors.
Farmers cannot get people to pick produce.
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Originally Posted by 601
Tried to get a tradie lately?
Just about any shop you walk into these days have a employment vacancy sign.
There is a shortage of nurses, paramedics, doctors.
Farmers cannot get people to pick produce.
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Because the gates closed for some time on the cheap imports and those undercutting the “supply/demamd” equation part of incumbent labor.
it is simply unviable for anyone to leave the house and kids, drive 5-10 hours to live in a dorm to be paid minimum wage. Pay the tax and get back home once a week. Picking fruit.
The pay is all gone in fuel and tax.

As far as tradies, nurses, paramedics and doctors…. Well similar situation. Add the bureaucracy and bull**** (a bit like aviation) to the hours and lack of QOL and bingo…. Same reliance on imports.

At least there were some more places for the locals in Uni and further education for a time.
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So far the worker shortage seems to be about a shortage of workers who will either work short shifts (casual workers), work for peanuts, or work crushing hours for months (medical staff).

I have been reading of business owners moaning about the shortage of skilled workers for about 20 years. What they are really moaning about is the shortage of workers willing to be slaves.

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Old 18th Apr 2022, 23:16
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus
So far the worker shortage seems to be about a shortage of workers who will either work short shifts (casual workers), work for peanuts, or work crushing hours for months (medical staff).

I have been reading of business owners moaning about the shortage of skilled workers for about 20 years. What they are really moaning about is the shortage of workers willing to be slaves.
Nailed it!

Over a decade of stagnant wages growth vs cost of living could be a contributing factor?

However, I'm sure Scomo's policy of getting first home buyers into homes at 2% deposit on the cusp of imminent interest rate rises will deliver another swathe of people into fiscal bondage for the bulk of their lives that will have very little choice in what rates and shifts they work for.
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 23:39
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Originally Posted by Talkwrench
Nailed it!

Over a decade of stagnant wages growth vs cost of living could be a contributing factor?

However, I'm sure Scomo's policy of getting first home buyers into homes at 2% deposit on the cusp of imminent interest rate rises will deliver another swathe of people into fiscal bondage for the bulk of their lives that will have very little choice in what rates and shifts they work for.
Apart from the obvious pork barreling, it will have the effect of continued upward pressure on home prices, hence continued upward wealth of investors.
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Old 19th Apr 2022, 10:51
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https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/airport-...antas/13846674
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Old 19th Apr 2022, 22:00
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Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay
All the standard responses,they are always right,everybody else is wrong.
You say the sky is blue,they will argue it is black & of course theyre right.
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Old 19th Apr 2022, 23:28
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Originally Posted by blubak
All the standard responses,they are always right,everybody else is wrong.
You say the sky is blue,they will argue it is black & of course theyre right.
I notice that foul grub, GT had his feckless stench all over this article. Offering up his cornhole, and defending Qantas management at all costs.
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Old 19th Apr 2022, 23:57
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Spot on 20/11 - seems he's learned the art of avoidance from all the pollies he crawls into bed with. Not a chance one could defend Qantas over these issues. But Grub butt was able to avoid criticising QF
whilst giving his "aviation expert" opinions. Notice he did not make one statement apportioning any blame on Qantas' policies and performance.

And spare a thought for the aircrew - no doubt being rostered for 8, 10 or whatever hour shifts, and having the delays turn their days into marathons for no extra reward. Was always one of my frustrations in the airlines, management decisions, operational shortfalls, whatever, but all things beyond the crews' control leading to delays and extended days for no overtime whilst the decisionmakers are home cuddling up with Snuggles the cat by the fire.
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Originally Posted by twentyelevens
I notice that foul grub, GT had his feckless stench all over this article. Offering up his cornhole, and defending Qantas management at all costs.
Probably got gifted a seat on the inaugural Per-Fco service in return for his 'expert opinion'.
He would have no idea as to how an experienced workforce solves problems many times over every day & this shows in his simple minded analysis of the issue.
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The best crew rest I have ever seen...

https://australianaviation.com.au/2022/04/exclusive-qantas-crew-sleep-across-seats-in-front-of-passengers/
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Old 20th Apr 2022, 11:02
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This is the flying the kiwi crew are doing because the Australian crews did not agree to the sub standard rest arrangements.
i heard a brief mention on the wireless a couple of days ago in bne. I am surprised it has not got more media attention. Blatant offshoring of labor to circumvent protections.
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Old 20th Apr 2022, 11:18
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus
So far the worker shortage seems to be about a shortage of workers who will either work short shifts (casual workers), work for peanuts, or work crushing hours for months (medical staff).

I have been reading of business owners moaning about the shortage of skilled workers for about 20 years. What they are really moaning about is the shortage of workers willing to be slaves.
Spot on !

OK, not exactly slaves, but nevertheless I used to wonder why I and the rest of the crew were expected to subsidise the cost of our passenger's tickets through our lowered wages and increased duty times.

Why couldn't our glorious - and supposedly so clever - leaders be a bit more imaginative in competition instead of just going for the lowest ticket price, at the expenses of their worker's sanity and families.

Any idiot could just cut costs and outsource almost everything...........and sadly, they do.
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Originally Posted by Uplinker
Spot on !.

Any idiot could just cut costs and outsource almost everything...........and sadly, they do.
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The outsourcing is going well also…….

sowing and reaping.
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