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Old 28th Feb 2022, 21:25
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Where did I say I thought Vlad was doing the right thing? Critical thinking is really a lost art. Take a look at what he is doing from the Russian history perspective rather than just consuming the woke media portrayal of him as some crazed lunatic. I think the invasion is appalling but I see what he doing rather than seeing a crazed megalomaniac.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 22:15
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If you can't see a crazed megalomaniac then your 'critical thinking' is a little skew-iff.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 22:46
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 View Post
Where did I say I thought Vlad was doing the right thing?
When you write that Russia is "taking what is theirs" and putin is "doing what is best for Russia". You are a shill for Putin, and a complete disgrace. None of what you wrote is phrased in a way that says you're simply presenting the Russian side of the argument, if such a thing even exists. You assert it as objective fact. When your weak as piss 'argument' is challenged, you capitulate with nothing more than 'agree to disagree'.

Originally Posted by Icarus2001 View Post
Critical thinking is really a lost art.
A critical thought hasn't crossed the diminished synapses of your brain in a very long time I'd wager.

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Take a look at what he is doing from the Russian history perspective rather than just consuming the woke media portrayal of him as some crazed lunatic.
The unbelievable arrogance to assert that my position, my understanding of current events could only be arrived at through superficial consumption of 'woke media'. And I thought you couldn't disgrace yourself further. My understanding of these events goes well beyond what I saw on "TMZ", you blithering pompous idiot. The Russian perspective may present insight into why these actions have taken place, but critically, any rational educated person would understand that this doesn't excuse their illegal and murderous conduct. Is the only reason you disagree with the Nazis that you don't understand their perspective?

And of course again, you defend the character of Putin, denying that he is a lunatic, despite him threatening to literally end all life on earth, to destroy the entire f'in planet should they come to the aid of a sovereign, free and democratic nation that he is currently invading.

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I think the invasion is appalling (I don't believe that for a second) but I see what he doing rather than seeing a crazed megalomaniac.
You know what they say about the worth of any statement that is followed by "but" ?

You're a pathetic Putin shill, a disgrace to this board. There is no excuse, no justification, nothing at all that justifies what is happening to the people of Ukraine right now. Any attempt to do so merely marks one as an enemy of the liberal and free population of the world.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 23:02
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Gosh, you really are hanging on quite tightly. Relax. Nothing we do here in Australia will affect the outcome.

So saying that “ Russia is taking what is theirs” refers to Vlad’s point of view. I do not think it is theirs to take and as I said, repeating for clarity, I think the invasion is appalling. He clearly believes that NOW is the time to invade, he has had thirty thousand troops there on the border for nearly a year. If he was crazy it is a very long drawn out craziness, which implies strategy. Why not just invade when “his mate” Trump was in office? Thereby assuring himself an easy reaction from the US? Have a think about that.
As to him doing “ what is best for Russia” I believe that HE believes that is what he is doing. The current RUB crash and the financial punishments will not last very long. Especially since Europe needs his gas. Can you imagine for one minute what would happen in Europe if he turned of gas supply? A very cold spring ahead I think. Any world leader wants to increase their empire, except Trudeau perhaps who knows what he wants. So accessing the trade route through Ukraine, their mineral reserves and access to ports is all a strategic win for Russia, which will last much longer than the sanctions.
As far as the western alliance response? Sleepy Joe will not even declare a no fly zone as he would not want to enforce it. Ukraine has specifically asked for a NFZ. What about the EU and their NATO allies? Very quiet n’est pas.
I may disagree with you but I will defend your right to say it. Personal attacks on me do you no credit, try playing the ball not the man.

Finally; the world is a tragedy to those who feel and a comedy to those who think - Horace Walpole 1769
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 23:25
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> Personal attacks on me do you no credit, try playing the ball not the man.

There is no ball to play, you have no argument. You're a pathetic shill. Watching you back peddle out of your absurd posturing has been most entertaining. "I wAs jUsT prESenTinG thE RusSian PerspEctIve".

Explain to me again how a person who has repeatedly threatened to destroy the entire world and murder every single person in it, is not a lunatic. I'll wait.

As for the rest of your drivel predicting the future financial position of Russia, nothing more than the musings of an idiot. The Ruble crash will not last very long?



Yeh, look at that Ruble go, recovery will be any minute now... aaaanny minute now.

Russia is being sent back to the stone age. If you think this is a temporary or transient occurrence, that Russia will have markets to operate in anytime soon, you're even dumber than I thought.

I want to hear out of your mouth that you agree there is absolutely no justification, no excuse at all for Russia's conduct here. Their perspective, their viewpoint is utterly irrelevant. Say that and I'll believe your protestations that you find the invasion appalling. Otherwise, its just more maneuvering.




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