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Old 21st Apr 2023, 00:44
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Originally Posted by Down and Welded
I'd just say this, Capt:
"Can someone explain to me what sort of aircraft malfunction would cause a TRE, and with many years in MAS and on the 777, and the 777 systems, to react in this manner? Because I cannot." That's the point of this mystery and of this discussion, isn't it? No-one can explain it... we can only enjoy reading the suggestions around possibility from those who can knowledgeably opine on what we know. Nixon doesn't seek (as I perceive it) to explain any of these things either. Just to suggest what he thinks are practical possibilities. Others can then judge these hypotheses (or you can, like Lead Balloon and Pinky, just waste bandwidth).

"There is no indication in any of the recovered MH370 wreckage that a fire was involved." Perhaps not, but did any of the recovered wreckage come from any portion of the a/c that may have been subject to fire (e.g. the avionics bay or cargo hold)?
I can explain the scenario in terms of Pilot Hijacking; (one happened three weeks prior to MH370) just not in the context of a malfunction. Also, if this was a simulator exercise, the crew would be stood down for comprehensive retraining.

Not a good look for a TRE.

But lets recap.. This malfunction apparently took out all the means of communication, and nothing else. Transponder, ACARS, Satcom, and all radios. Navigation systems, fuel management, Engines ... all untouched. Electrical systems (LH AC Bus) turned back on an hour after the turn at IGARI and worked perfectly. Have a think about that in terms that this bus is not controlled by the ELMS. It did not do that by itself.

The MEC contains electronics that control the following functions;

Information management
- Generator control
- Transformer rectifier
- Flight control and autopilot
- Environmental control
- Recording
- Navigation
- Communication
- Cabin management
- Weight and balance
- Air data
- Inertial data
- Warning
- Proximity sensing
- Engine control.

But the only systems affected were the systems that enabled people who could help, ATC and MAS maintenance, to be cut out of the loop.

This selective mayhem from a COPV oxygen bottle type that has never had a known failure, from a class of equipment that has only had one known failure in the history of aviation, where the resultant emergency was handled as per the book by the aircrafts crew for a professional, safe landing.

I say it again, look at the flight path from IGARI. That is not the flightpath of a diligent application of ANC principles from a man who taught and checked it to other pilots, or a First Officer who was 95% of the way through a course that stressed and required the correct handling of emergencies from day one, who was already cleared to act as a single pilot if necessary, and who would have failed this particular training trip had he managed to survive it.

There is something going on here that is not related to any failure of any aircraft systems.
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Old 21st Apr 2023, 19:14
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Originally Posted by Capt Kremin
I can explain the scenario in terms of Pilot Hijacking; (one happened three weeks prior to MH370) just not in the context of a malfunction. Also, if this was a simulator exercise, the crew would be stood down for comprehensive retraining.

Not a good look for a TRE.

But lets recap.. This malfunction apparently took out all the means of communication, and nothing else. Transponder, ACARS, Satcom, and all radios. Navigation systems, fuel management, Engines ... all untouched. Electrical systems (LH AC Bus) turned back on an hour after the turn at IGARI and worked perfectly. Have a think about that in terms that this bus is not controlled by the ELMS. It did not do that by itself.

The MEC contains electronics that control the following functions;

Information management
- Generator control
- Transformer rectifier
- Flight control and autopilot
- Environmental control
- Recording
- Navigation
- Communication
- Cabin management
- Weight and balance
- Air data
- Inertial data
- Warning
- Proximity sensing
- Engine control.

But the only systems affected were the systems that enabled people who could help, ATC and MAS maintenance, to be cut out of the loop.

This selective mayhem from a COPV oxygen bottle type that has never had a known failure, from a class of equipment that has only had one known failure in the history of aviation, where the resultant emergency was handled as per the book by the aircrafts crew for a professional, safe landing.

I say it again, look at the flight path from IGARI. That is not the flightpath of a diligent application of ANC principles from a man who taught and checked it to other pilots, or a First Officer who was 95% of the way through a course that stressed and required the correct handling of emergencies from day one, who was already cleared to act as a single pilot if necessary, and who would have failed this particular training trip had he managed to survive it.

There is something going on here that is not related to any failure of any aircraft systems.
I look forward to you explaining to us the reasoning for the following in the hijack scenario:
1.How and why the Flight ID was deleted/ missing from the SATCOM logon at 18:25?
2. Why the aircraft diverted INTO the range of multiple primary radar sites heading towards Penang airport?
3. The purpose of the SATCOM logon again?
4. The lack of any demands, motives or any claims of responsibility by anyone?
5. Why it flew until fuel exhaustion, or give any previous pilot Hijacking scenario that ended in fuel exhaustion?
6 The flightpath and endpoint?
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Old 22nd Apr 2023, 04:41
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Originally Posted by GBO
I look forward to you explaining to us the reasoning for the following in the hijack scenario:
1.How and why the Flight ID was deleted/ missing from the SATCOM logon at 18:25?
2. Why the aircraft diverted INTO the range of multiple primary radar sites heading towards Penang airport?
3. The purpose of the SATCOM logon again?
4. The lack of any demands, motives or any claims of responsibility by anyone?
5. Why it flew until fuel exhaustion, or give any previous pilot Hijacking scenario that ended in fuel exhaustion?
6 The flightpath and endpoint?
7. Why would any pilot disconnect the autopilot to make a 180 degree turn at FL350 and at night, unless of course it disconnected itself, which leads to;
8. What caused the autopilot to disconnect?

I should remind also that the 'autopilot disconnected turn scenario' is what the official investigation concluded in the Safety Investigation Report of July 2018.
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Old 26th Apr 2023, 01:21
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Originally Posted by GBO
I look forward to you explaining to us the reasoning for the following in the hijack scenario:
1.How and why the Flight ID was deleted/ missing from the SATCOM logon at 18:25?
2. Why the aircraft diverted INTO the range of multiple primary radar sites heading towards Penang airport?
3. The purpose of the SATCOM logon again?
4. The lack of any demands, motives or any claims of responsibility by anyone?
5. Why it flew until fuel exhaustion, or give any previous pilot Hijacking scenario that ended in fuel exhaustion?
6 The flightpath and endpoint?
I am writing a book about it. All covered, plus more. I'll let you know if it gets published.
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Old 26th Apr 2023, 02:06
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I am writing a book about it. All covered, plus more. I'll let you know if it gets published.
Put me down for an autographed copy please.
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Old 13th Jun 2023, 22:35
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And in a further development...

Malaysia asks Interpol to help track down NY comedian who made MH370 jokeKuala Lumpur: Malaysia will seek Interpolís assistance in tracking down and investigating a stand-up comic who mocked the country and made jokes about missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, its police chief said.

Jocelyn Chia, a New York-based comedian, stirred controversy in Malaysia and Singapore this month after she posted on social media a clip of her live comedy set in which she joked about the plane that went missing nine years ago with 239 people onboard... /continues
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Old 14th Jun 2023, 03:05
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Suck it Malaysia you softcoc#s!
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Old 14th Jun 2023, 04:23
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What the fuss is about.

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Old 14th Jun 2023, 04:54
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No love lost there! Wow, quite an eye-opener. Neighbo(u)rs from hell. I don't think I would enjoy being the butt of any of her jokes, and Malaysia being a religious state probably does not tolerate jokes well anyway.
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Old 14th Jun 2023, 05:22
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Of all the places I’ve lived and worked, Singapore would be closest to being hell on earth.

Singaporean comedian? Oxymoron.

And someone needs to remind her about Silk Air 185.
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Thumbs down

An excellent example of poor taste!
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Old 14th Jun 2023, 07:45
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what's more unfunny than a female comedian? Apparently an asian female comedian. That was genuinely terrible.
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Old 14th Jun 2023, 10:40
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I lived and worked in Singapore for 2 years. None of the locals I met had an attitude like that.
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Old 14th Jun 2023, 10:51
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Originally Posted by lucille
Of all the places Iíve lived and worked, Singapore would be closest to being hell on earth.

Singaporean comedian? Oxymoron.

And someone needs to remind her about Silk Air 185.
Interesting take on it. I used to love Singapore comedians and Malaysian comedians, very Aussie seriously taking the piss out of each other.

If you couldnít find what you liked in Singapore you obviously didnít try hard enough!

As for this chick, great skit, the world has well and truley wokenised if ya canít handle a comedian!
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Old 14th Jun 2023, 23:56
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Spent 11 years in Singapore, nice people, clean and safe. No teenage girls setting fire to your Range Rover or burglarizing your home. No drugs and an attitude to crime that I only wish we could emulate. No graffiti, if you try it you are canned. Great Airline to work for they literally fly everywhere, you certainly see the world.

As for MH370 I had a theory on day 1 that I still hold. Sorry to James Nixon, one of my favourite F/O's back in the 727 days but I beg to disagree with you.
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As for this chick, great skit, the world has well and truley wokenised if ya canít handle a comedian!
Sorry Global, but I beg to differ. I find nothing amusing about the deaths of 239 people.
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Old 15th Jun 2023, 00:19
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Malaysia rather famously told comedian ventriloquist Jeff Dunham that he couldn't do his "Achmed, The Dead Terrorist" routine when he performed there (one of his most popular bits). It wouldn't have been quite so bad, but they waited until literarily minutes before the show to tell him (after Achmed had been referenced in months of advertising for the show).
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Singapore. Kiasu.

I rest my case.
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Originally Posted by megan
If you don't understand Bahasa Melayu then start at around the 20 second mark

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Originally Posted by artee
Wait a minute - they want Interpol to go after a comedian because she made a bad joke? Seriously?
OK, she's not that funny - I get it. But what are they going to do, arrest her for it? Interpol isn't busy enough going after actual criminal behavior that they need to go after bad comedians now?

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