Qantas Fleet Speculation
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Qantas Fleet Speculation
Qantas A220 & A320 domestic fleet replacement. Who will fly them? Who will maintain them? Who will manage them?
Tech crews, CAMO, AOC, AMO etc etc.
Tech crews, CAMO, AOC, AMO etc etc.
I think the business has other priorities at this current moment.
Whatever is cheaper. That’s how it will work. That’s how it’s worked in recent times and I doubt that will change in the future. Most of us will be retired, or near, before all these new fleets are completely rolled out, as well as executives. Long term plans they are a matter for the next generation!
All these big plans for the future are a matter for the 20 and 30 year old somethings of today to deal with. One thing I do know, they will bite themselves in the ar$e with lowest price wins.
Whatever is cheaper. That’s how it will work. That’s how it’s worked in recent times and I doubt that will change in the future. Most of us will be retired, or near, before all these new fleets are completely rolled out, as well as executives. Long term plans they are a matter for the next generation!
All these big plans for the future are a matter for the 20 and 30 year old somethings of today to deal with. One thing I do know, they will bite themselves in the ar$e with lowest price wins.
The Kalgoorlie refueller tells me A320s in the west will be operated by Network (including Jetstar's routes in the west); A220s operated by Cobham.
I think the discussions may be on whether the 321 with its range and potential destinations could be considered more in part a LH replacement?
The A220 is another kettle of fish, the 717s and their crew are now within the group so that would be the natural location for their replacements. However those aircraft/crew aren’t covered by something like the Integration Award so that isn’t a necessity.
Looking at the A220-300 it certainly has the range and capacity to be a lower density 737 replacement in part, possibly that could come under the IA too, maybe that’s why SH could be a possibility?
The A220 is another kettle of fish, the 717s and their crew are now within the group so that would be the natural location for their replacements. However those aircraft/crew aren’t covered by something like the Integration Award so that isn’t a necessity.
Looking at the A220-300 it certainly has the range and capacity to be a lower density 737 replacement in part, possibly that could come under the IA too, maybe that’s why SH could be a possibility?
Looking at the A220-300 it certainly has the range and capacity to be a lower density 737 replacement in part, possibly that could come under the IA too, maybe that’s why SH could be a possibility?
Last edited by aussieflyboy; 13th Feb 2022 at 12:08.
Although that would go against the current tactics of more entities and more separation however.
Realistically what will happen is NJS will have the 20 smaller planes and do what they do now. Mainline will get the 320/21s and/or maybe a big version of the A220.
They will threaten to give the flying to NJS at the Mainline negotiations and threaten to give all the aircraft to Mainline at the NJS negotiations. The fact is they won’t do either of those things as the result of doing that will be too expensive (massive redundancies/crew shortages ect).
The most important thing for pilots is to remember who the true enemy is. Don’t listen/fall for the BS at the town halls that will be thrown at you. The threats of “it’s ours to lose” and “it’s important we reach an agreement quickly” is all part of the game. Don’t forget that folks!
They will threaten to give the flying to NJS at the Mainline negotiations and threaten to give all the aircraft to Mainline at the NJS negotiations. The fact is they won’t do either of those things as the result of doing that will be too expensive (massive redundancies/crew shortages ect).
The most important thing for pilots is to remember who the true enemy is. Don’t listen/fall for the BS at the town halls that will be thrown at you. The threats of “it’s ours to lose” and “it’s important we reach an agreement quickly” is all part of the game. Don’t forget that folks!
Realistically what will happen is NJS will have the 20 smaller planes and do what they do now. Mainline will get the 320/21s and/or maybe a big version of the A220.
They will threaten to give the flying to NJS at the Mainline negotiations and threaten to give all the aircraft to Mainline at the NJS negotiations. The fact is they won’t do either of those things as the result of doing that will be too expensive (massive redundancies/crew shortages ect).
The most important thing for pilots is to remember who the true enemy is. Don’t listen/fall for the BS at the town halls that will be thrown at you. The threats of “it’s ours to lose” and “it’s important we reach an agreement quickly” is all part of the game. Don’t forget that folks!
They will threaten to give the flying to NJS at the Mainline negotiations and threaten to give all the aircraft to Mainline at the NJS negotiations. The fact is they won’t do either of those things as the result of doing that will be too expensive (massive redundancies/crew shortages ect).
The most important thing for pilots is to remember who the true enemy is. Don’t listen/fall for the BS at the town halls that will be thrown at you. The threats of “it’s ours to lose” and “it’s important we reach an agreement quickly” is all part of the game. Don’t forget that folks!
The subtle undertones and time pressured “negotiations” are already being trotted out by management and those who wish to be seen as “good company men”. Everybody should read the above post and keep reading it until it sinks in. Pilots should be giving absolutely nothing away in order to earn a living, especially when the industry is dead without us.
