New 'Bonza' LCC launches middle 2022 with B737 MAX
Originally Posted by BuzzBox
The 'Legends' can wear it their way...
IN PHOTOS: our newest airline reveals its very cool 'Aussie-first' uniforms
I wonder if they'll draw the line at a pair of these:
So whom do I follow in the even of an emergency. They aren't very identifiable as crew.
Originally Posted by Australopithecus
You can indeed look professional in a well fitting polo shirt.
A golf pro.
Is that the image you wish to project?
Sorry boys, the job you want to do isn’t a casual resort worker’s gig. Even my daughter’s 20 something friends, when polled, said they want real pilots, not their douche bag friends let loose in a plane.
A golf pro.
Is that the image you wish to project?
Sorry boys, the job you want to do isn’t a casual resort worker’s gig. Even my daughter’s 20 something friends, when polled, said they want real pilots, not their douche bag friends let loose in a plane.
I've been doing a bit of heli training, the instructors wear ringers type shirts (cos they get dirty when you're mucking around with oil and fuel and shit) and hard yakka type daks (cos they get dirty when you're mucking around with oil and fuel and shit). It's practicle and it's comfortable but they still look like pilots, not like those clowns in the picture.
You drive a bus. You realise that right?
Now which bus uniform should we wear, the shorts and short sleeve with epaulet town bus, the interstate suited coach captain, the minibus slacks and corporate shirt tour jockey or casual smart airport bus checked shirt, or the pub bus jeans and collared shirt with some beer logo on it. I'm think the ideal uniform might be from the passenger-less 18 wheel bus, blue stubbies and tank top (with pie stains).
On that basis if a plane is a flying bus, then a truck is passenger-less bus, a train is a long articulated bus on rails, a taxi is a compact bus, a ship is a floating bus, the space shuttle is a space bus, a tank is a war bus and a helicopter is an incredibly noisy complicated bus.
Now which bus uniform should we wear, the shorts and short sleeve with epaulet town bus, the interstate suited coach captain, the minibus slacks and corporate shirt tour jockey or casual smart airport bus checked shirt, or the pub bus jeans and collared shirt with some beer logo on it. I'm think the ideal uniform might be from the passenger-less 18 wheel bus, blue stubbies and tank top (with pie stains).
Now which bus uniform should we wear, the shorts and short sleeve with epaulet town bus, the interstate suited coach captain, the minibus slacks and corporate shirt tour jockey or casual smart airport bus checked shirt, or the pub bus jeans and collared shirt with some beer logo on it. I'm think the ideal uniform might be from the passenger-less 18 wheel bus, blue stubbies and tank top (with pie stains).
Originally Posted by 43Inches
On that basis if a plane is a flying bus
wait a minute..
it's hilarious how seriously some of you lot take yourselves. You drive a bus, you're not rocket surgeons. The bonza uniform isn't to my taste, so I manage that by simply not applying. It's that easy. If a 22 year old can fly an F35 wearing little more than a green garbage bag, I'm sure the great and distinguished profession of disconnecting the autopilot at 100ft and 'sort of' flaring will survive some tin pot operator going easy on the sacrosanct dress standards. Deary me.
it's hilarious how seriously some of you lot take yourselves.
Originally Posted by Australopithecus
Sorry boys, the job you want to do isn’t a casual resort worker’s gig. Even my daughter’s 20 something friends, when polled, said they want real pilots, not their douche bag friends let loose in a plane.
Your casual resort worker would be more suited to such a uniform. They aren't dealing with like black oil on their hands from pre-flight inspections, filthy fuel bowser equipment and hoses, pilot maintenance items like changing a tyre/removing or installing seats/changing tyres just to name a few.
Das Uber you stun me. "You realise you drive a bus/" In one short (stupid) statement you have entirely destroyed the concept of pilot remuneration. Should we be paid $72k like a bus driver? You've probably been on these forums pontificating about why pilots must keep remuneration levels commensurate with the responsibilities, the non benign airborne environment, the years of study, hours building and qualifications earned (bus driver??), the checking regime, the medical standards. etc etc. We are not JUST bus drivers.
As for the uniform, your argument is flawed. Sure, a uniform does not make you fly better. Fly in the nude for all I care - it won't affect how you fly. But the uniform is about PUBLIC PERCEPTION and that is all. It is about making you and your airline looking the part, looking professional - looking like the kind of well studied, competent flyer that the nervous flyer wants to trust. I sit in terminals and often look at uniform standards. When I see the guy with tie on but dragged 6 inches down with the top button undone, no jacket on, shirt pulled out a bit, hat under the arm - I think slob, I think bad attitude, I think lazy piece of shit. Not the guy I want flying me as he looks like he hasn't opened a book in 30 years and wouldn't know his memory items or limitations. My point is, he may know them all perfectly, he may fly like a bird, he may be a great guy - but to the public in the terminal, he looks like he's just stepped out of the Bruisers Arms in Blacktown at 2 am on a Saturday morning. If you think that's ok Das, you are better suited to lollypop man on the Princes Highway.
What did you wear to your last interview mate? Bet you dressed well. Why?? Perception - impressing the interviewers, looking the part to be the part.
I saw a VA crew come out of the aerobridge recently - F/O looked immaculate - hat on, jacket done up, tie done up. The other guy - I assume captain - but he had no jacket, no wings, no tie, no epaulettes, no hat, just a withe shirt and a nav bag. Great attitude mate. F/O looked like a keen young guy who I would trust. But hey, he's just a bus driver isn't he Das.
As for the uniform, your argument is flawed. Sure, a uniform does not make you fly better. Fly in the nude for all I care - it won't affect how you fly. But the uniform is about PUBLIC PERCEPTION and that is all. It is about making you and your airline looking the part, looking professional - looking like the kind of well studied, competent flyer that the nervous flyer wants to trust. I sit in terminals and often look at uniform standards. When I see the guy with tie on but dragged 6 inches down with the top button undone, no jacket on, shirt pulled out a bit, hat under the arm - I think slob, I think bad attitude, I think lazy piece of shit. Not the guy I want flying me as he looks like he hasn't opened a book in 30 years and wouldn't know his memory items or limitations. My point is, he may know them all perfectly, he may fly like a bird, he may be a great guy - but to the public in the terminal, he looks like he's just stepped out of the Bruisers Arms in Blacktown at 2 am on a Saturday morning. If you think that's ok Das, you are better suited to lollypop man on the Princes Highway.
What did you wear to your last interview mate? Bet you dressed well. Why?? Perception - impressing the interviewers, looking the part to be the part.
I saw a VA crew come out of the aerobridge recently - F/O looked immaculate - hat on, jacket done up, tie done up. The other guy - I assume captain - but he had no jacket, no wings, no tie, no epaulettes, no hat, just a withe shirt and a nav bag. Great attitude mate. F/O looked like a keen young guy who I would trust. But hey, he's just a bus driver isn't he Das.
Hey Rodney, you shouldn’t assume. The FO you mention may have jumped straight off that aircraft after one sector and let’s not forget that FO’s are always keen for the obvious reason. The other guy may have just been paxing home after 4 sectors and 12 hours. We can position in J if available, but we are required to de-identify ourselves at the direction of our fearless leaders. I know a few ‘slobs’ as you call them who are genuine ‘stick and rudder’ pilots who I would entrust my family to. I also know a few very well dressed FO’s who I wouldn’t trust to put my garbage out on Monday night………I agree though, it is all about public perception, that’s a phrase I keep banging on about, perhaps we’ve had this discussion in the past………
No idea
Thanks, must admit that I dint think about the de identifying. Reference slobs who you would trust, as I say, how you look does not effect how you fly, but as we agree, public perception, what THEY see as a professional, and who THEY choose to spend their money with - well snappily dressed crew will win it in the public's eyes. And that's why company contracts that we all sign have grooming standards in there - so as we project an image of competence. And of course there are well dressed F/Os who cant fly a stick up a dog's arse - but at least to the public he looks like he can. When we get to the stage where pilots can dress exactly how they want because Das Uber and co say its not relevant to how safe the machine is kept..... well, its all over..
Thanks, must admit that I dint think about the de identifying. Reference slobs who you would trust, as I say, how you look does not effect how you fly, but as we agree, public perception, what THEY see as a professional, and who THEY choose to spend their money with - well snappily dressed crew will win it in the public's eyes. And that's why company contracts that we all sign have grooming standards in there - so as we project an image of competence. And of course there are well dressed F/Os who cant fly a stick up a dog's arse - but at least to the public he looks like he can. When we get to the stage where pilots can dress exactly how they want because Das Uber and co say its not relevant to how safe the machine is kept..... well, its all over..
