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Home Quarantine for Aircrew

Old 20th Oct 2021, 03:15
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Originally Posted by KRviator View Post
And let's not forget the FedEx bloke who caused this latest kerfuffle... Don't exclude 'im just because of who he worked for, it could have happened to acrewmember from any operator.
Not entirely true. A pilot who lives in a city with a very high infection rate and is allowed to leave their hotel in cities they visit that may also have high infection rates, will have a much higher chance of catching/spreading COVID than a pilot who lives in QLD.

Living in a COVID free state, being locked up whilst you are away and being vaccinated are the defence, they should not be locked up at home on return.

It is obviously a different scenario for a foreign pilot who may not tick those 3 boxes.
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 04:20
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It should be one or the other by now. Either keep me locked up in the hotel when overseas and remove the quarantine requirement when I get home, or let me out of my hotel room.
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 08:32
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Originally Posted by Fonz121 View Post
It should be one or the other by now. Either keep me locked up in the hotel when overseas and remove the quarantine requirement when I get home, or let me out of my hotel room.
Exactly right. This current rule set is nonsense.
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 08:41
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Originally Posted by Koizi View Post
“Victoria’s Chief Health Officer, Brett Sutton, said on Tuesday that NSW would no longer be classified as a “red zone”.

This means that from 11.59pm on Tuesday night, fully vaccinated people – including people recently returned from overseas – can travel with a permit from all parts of NSW into Victoria without having to isolate on arrival or get tested for COVID-19.”
I clicked on your link and I don’t see the reference to “people returned from overseas”. Perhaps it was a misprint that has subsequently been rectified since you posted.
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 09:15
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Perhaps it was a misprint that has subsequently been rectified since you posted.
Maybe, but I did a run through of the current Victorian entry permit for an orange zone and I didn't notice any section where you are asked or required to declare overseas travel.
Perhaps it has yet to be updated. But the way I see it, given the complete removal of any inbound requirements, flights are unlikely to be met by anyone.
Given the permit doesn't ask, who else is stopping this from occurring?

On a separate note, I've heard that by the end of the week Fri/Sat the Vic government is likely to make an announcement regarding our situation. Fingers crossed.
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 11:14
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Quarantine to go Nov 1 for Vic as well.
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 11:38
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Hallelujah.
They were brutal.
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 23:34
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This is great news - we can only screw it up from here - some bright spark (in Vic government department) with no doubt say that aircrew still need to quarantine.
I've lost faith in that mob, so I'll expect the worst and hope to be pleasantly surprised...
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 03:38
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What a pain all Australian layovers.. It just overreacting to the point that the whole situation is beyond ridiculous. Twice vaccinated crew are treated like contagious lab mice! test before departure, test on arrival, then they ask you, log in here and there to check result...I say, let me tell you a secret.. I know is going to be negative , like the 100 tests before this one.

Talking to the ground staff in the airport, some are still human rather than robocops and we talk about the schizophrenic and totalitarian laws the Australian government implemented.
How in Earth an australian citizen faces restrictions and all this crap when trying to come back to his/her own country! And no citizens are complaining properly about it, despite the media trying to manipulate the news saying there is "demonstrations".
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 03:44
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Excuse me, let me get this right, they keep you locked up in the room when overseas, AND when you come back you face quarantine??
All Ausie and NZ airlines do the same?
I know that Singapore they have security guards in NY for them not to venture outside the hotel. Insane. While other airline crew are enjoying the city.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 03:50
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What relation do you see in complaining about something ridiculous and nonsense like way too long quarantine and having a job? He might be complaining to useless politicians not to the Universe.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 08:35
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Excuse me, let me get this right, they keep you locked up in the room when overseas, AND when you come back you face quarantine??
All Ausie and NZ airlines do the same?
Correct, until November 1.
Prior to November 1st, vaccinated crews (incl. freighter crews) who were locked in rooms at overseas quarantine hotels, were required to undergo 14 days quarantine/home iso.
This was mandated by federal/state requirements and did not vary by airline.

I believe Air NZ did get exemption from 14 days to a reduced 3 with a negative test. Not sure where they stand now. Someone from Godzone probably knows more.
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Old 1st Nov 2021, 10:08
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Looks like it’s not all over yet…..



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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 00:24
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Lol so basically your locked out from going to a pub or restaurant, match, concert, etc pretty much all the time except if your on leave……
Yet my sister is a doctor in a Covid ward and has no restrictions in the outside world (apart from being tested every 3-4 days)
When will this beauracratic madness end?
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 00:43
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I love how the employer is responsible for compliance.

What are they suggesting? GPS tracking ankle bracelets???

Maybe I shouldn't laugh. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it!
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 05:06
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Last gasp power grab by the faceless bureaucrats of NSW health. It can’t last beyond tourists arriving into Australia. As if they’re not going to be eating out at ‘hospitality venues’ every meal? I give this one a maximum of a month before it goes the same way of 7 day home iso.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 06:47
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Given that the document applies to all arrivals (not included in my screenshot) it’s also tell anyone in the education, hospitality or health industries that you can’t go back to work on return for a week.
That’s an unexpected sting in the tail.

Also odd that retail isn’t listed. So you can go to your local mega shopping centre, plough through Myer, Kmart etc but don’t you dare grab a snack at the food court.

Hopefully this is one bright Sydney idea that doesn’t make its way south of the border.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 10:44
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Just been revoked and amended, proof that idiotic health officials behind the scenes are making crap rules. Lasted 2 days, Jesus you couldn’t make this up! This is a last gasp by idiots that have been employed during the pandemic to try and save their jobs….All that dead wood needs to be lanced from this boil, and learnt to make a real living.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 10:51
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“The Health Advice” has been the mantra we have been held to for the last 20 months. Apparently this “Health Advice” took a U turn in 2 days. This is a joke we need to rise up and get rid of these idiots, common sense tends to trump health officials. Just get vaccinated, be common sense and let us live, I’m sick of this crap “Health Advice” it’s over…
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 11:53
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack View Post
Just been revoked and amended, proof that idiotic health officials behind the scenes are making crap rules. Lasted 2 days, Jesus you couldn’t make this up! This is a last gasp by idiots that have been employed during the pandemic to try and save their jobs….All that dead wood needs to be lanced from this boil, and learnt to make a real living.
Got a link? All the web pages I can find are outdated! Cheers.
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