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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 02:59
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For all of the superior beings here labelling anyone who cares to use their brain and ask questions of the current narrative that is ruining not just our lives but THE WHOLE WORLD idiots…..

I would think the definition of an idiot is engaging in the worlds best example of group think and peer pressure by injecting an unknown substance into your body that has ZERO LONG TERM SAFETY STUDIES, for an illness that kills .3% of the people it infects (and that’s being generous). All of this bull about “doing it for everybody else” and other examples of virtue signalling are pure cowardice for the fact that you don’t have the balls to stand up to the government and the company. Oh wow you’re so courageous, you went along, rolled up your sleeve and did as you’re told, what a big and tough beacon of courage you are.

if you want to get the jab, good on you, fill your boots. If you don’t want to expose yourself to the unknown long term effects of something that’s clearly not doing what it says on the tin (look at Israel) then you shouldn’t be punished for that.

for all of the authoritarian zealots here that “want to refuse to fly with someone who isn’t “vaccinated” “ or punish those who have a different view of the world, well there’s plenty out there that are worried about flying with you jabbed time bombs.

Christ when did Australians become so obsessed with totalitarianism and punishing people who think differently? What is wrong with you people?
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:11
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Originally Posted by 22k
For all of the superior beings here labelling anyone who cares to use their brain and ask questions of the current narrative that is ruining not just our lives but THE WHOLE WORLD idiots…..

I would think the definition of an idiot is engaging in the worlds best example of group think and peer pressure by injecting an unknown substance into your body that has ZERO LONG TERM SAFETY STUDIES, for an illness that kills .3% of the people it infects (and that’s being generous). All of this bull about “doing it for everybody else” and other examples of virtue signalling are pure cowardice for the fact that you don’t have the balls to stand up to the government and the company. Oh wow you’re so courageous, you went along, rolled up your sleeve and did as you’re told, what a big and tough beacon of courage you are.

if you want to get the jab, good on you, fill your boots. If you don’t want to expose yourself to the unknown long term effects of something that’s clearly not doing what it says on the tin (look at Israel) then you shouldn’t be punished for that.

for all of the authoritarian zealots here that “want to refuse to fly with someone who isn’t “vaccinated” “ or punish those who have a different view of the world, well there’s plenty out there that are worried about flying with you jabbed time bombs.

Christ when did Australians become so obsessed with totalitarianism and punishing people who think differently? What is wrong with you people?

22k , all noted....... enjoy your retirement.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:19
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You'll never know who is and who is not, then there's the small problem of what about everyone else you come in contact with, maybe just perhaps think that one through.
Yes we will. Those without vaccine are those who are about to forfeit their job.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:22
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Originally Posted by 22k
For all of the superior beings here labelling anyone who cares to use their brain and ask questions of the current narrative that is ruining not just our lives but THE WHOLE WORLD idiots…..

I would think the definition of an idiot is engaging in the worlds best example of group think and peer pressure by injecting an unknown substance into your body that has ZERO LONG TERM SAFETY STUDIES, for an illness that kills .3% of the people it infects (and that’s being generous). All of this bull about “doing it for everybody else” and other examples of virtue signalling are pure cowardice for the fact that you don’t have the balls to stand up to the government and the company. Oh wow you’re so courageous, you went along, rolled up your sleeve and did as you’re told, what a big and tough beacon of courage you are.

if you want to get the jab, good on you, fill your boots. If you don’t want to expose yourself to the unknown long term effects of something that’s clearly not doing what it says on the tin (look at Israel) then you shouldn’t be punished for that.

for all of the authoritarian zealots here that “want to refuse to fly with someone who isn’t “vaccinated” “ or punish those who have a different view of the world, well there’s plenty out there that are worried about flying with you jabbed time bombs.

Christ when did Australians become so obsessed with totalitarianism and punishing people who think differently? What is wrong with you people?
Mate well said but you are wasting your time, the indoctrinated are too far gone! They will fight tooth & nail to bring you down, abuse you (it's the Aussie way)! I used to believe that Australia was the country with the most sheep, not so it seems till Covid came along, now we have more sheep that can be counted!:-)
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:25
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I respect your choice not to be vaccinated and what you are saying is quite right. Who knows this may turn out to be a global conspiracy, a well designed population cull for the unvaccinated and those that can't afford the antivaccine in the future. It would make for a blockbuster movie.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:26
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injecting an unknown substance into your body that has ZERO LONG TERM SAFETY STUDIES
I'm not the least bit worried as I've put a whole lot of other crap in my body which I knew was bad for me. This would have to be the most scrutinized vaccine in history.
for an illness that kills .3% of the people it infects
Wrong. Death rate at 2%: Worldometers
pure cowardice for the fact that you don’t have the balls to stand up to the government and the company
Oh yeah, we all really admire your bravado in completely rejecting science and medical experts. Whatever helps you sleep at night pal.
that’s clearly not doing what it says on the tin (look at Israel)
Look again, and see how effective it is in keeping people out of hospital. Have a look at the 'severely ill' graph: Israel dashboard
there’s plenty out there that are worried about flying with you jabbed time bombs.
The time bombs are the ones that won't get vaccinated and play russian roulette with the disease.
Christ when did Australians become so obsessed with totalitarianism and punishing people who think differently?
Because people like you are a health risk and will be directly responsible for filling up hospitals. Because people like you means that I don't get to enjoy further freedoms.
I respect your choice, but freedom of choice is not free from the consequences. Good luck in your alternative career.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:27
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Why the argument here fella’s? If you don’t want to be vaccinated, that’s cool. Your choice. I don’t need to see graphs are articles explaining your choice, it doesn’t worry me either way.
You are very aware of the consequences for that decision (either way), which I’m pretty sure is the purpose of this thread.
If you choose not to, cool and as Ollie says, enjoy your retirement.

Whether you think it’s reasonable of QF to demand this of you, is not relevant. If you choose to not get the vaccine, you won’t work for them after the 15th of November. So you have a little under 3 months to make your decision. Nobody here cares whether you do it or not. I’m quite happy with my decision, I hope you can be with yours.

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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:33
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
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I respect your choice not to be vaccinated and what you are saying is quite right. Who knows this may turn out to be a global conspiracy, a well designed population cull for the unvaccinated and those that can't afford the antivaccine in the future. It would make for a blockbuster movie.
Yeah, let's cull all the intelligent scientists and doctors. Cull all the conforming, well meaning citizens of the world, and leave the unrulable antagonists alive. The conspiracy really should be; the virus was designed to cull all the unintelligent people of the world, by providing a vaccine which they knew this cohort would not consider, leaving behind the rulable citizens of the world.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:38
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Yeah, let's cull all the intelligent scientists and doctors. Cull all the conforming, well meaning citizens of the world, and leave the unrulable antagonists alive. The conspiracy really should be; the virus was designed to cull all the unintelligent people of the world, by providing a vaccine which they knew this cohort would not consider, leaving behind the rulable citizens of the world.
I think we did that movie, I can't remember it's title.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:41
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Why the argument here fella’s? If you don’t want to be vaccinated, that’s cool. Your choice. I don’t need to see graphs are articles explaining your choice, it doesn’t worry me either way.
You are very aware of the consequences for that decision (either way), which I’m pretty sure is the purpose of this thread.
If you choose not to, cool and as Ollie says, enjoy your retirement.

Whether you think it’s reasonable of QF to demand this of you, is not relevant. If you choose to not get the vaccine, you won’t work for them after the 15th of November. So you have a little under 3 months to make your decision. Nobody here cares whether you do it or not. I’m quite happy with my decision, I hope you can be with yours.
And now that they know that, the company will never know they are not.
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Originally Posted by 22k
For all of the superior beings here labelling anyone who cares to use their brain and ask questions of the current narrative that is ruining not just our lives but THE WHOLE WORLD idiots…..

I would think the definition of an idiot is engaging in the worlds best example of group think and peer pressure by injecting an unknown substance into your body that has ZERO LONG TERM SAFETY STUDIES, for an illness that kills .3% of the people it infects (and that’s being generous). All of this bull about “doing it for everybody else” and other examples of virtue signalling are pure cowardice for the fact that you don’t have the balls to stand up to the government and the company. Oh wow you’re so courageous, you went along, rolled up your sleeve and did as you’re told, what a big and tough beacon of courage you are.

if you want to get the jab, good on you, fill your boots. If you don’t want to expose yourself to the unknown long term effects of something that’s clearly not doing what it says on the tin (look at Israel) then you shouldn’t be punished for that.

for all of the authoritarian zealots here that “want to refuse to fly with someone who isn’t “vaccinated” “ or punish those who have a different view of the world, well there’s plenty out there that are worried about flying with you jabbed time bombs.

Christ when did Australians become so obsessed with totalitarianism and punishing people who think differently? What is wrong with you people?

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Certainly the most sensible post I’ve read.

Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies
is certainly worth reading about.

Cheers
SA

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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:51
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G’day Xeptu. I’m not sure I follow. Are you suggesting some my attempt to commit a fraud against the business? It would be easy to check.

or are you saying once they have left the business, QF wouldn’t know whether they are vaccinated? In which case, they wouldn’t care.
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G’day Xeptu. I’m not sure I follow. Are you suggesting some my attempt to commit a fraud against the business? It would be easy to check.
Absolutely! and it's not easy to check, unless it has been legislated and comes in the form of a vaccine passport (biochip) it's not worth the paper it's printed on.
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Fair enough, but I wouldn’t want to get caught. Fraud can carry jail time. It would be a sad retirement, but again, your choice. I don’t care either way. And for the record, I believe we will have a vaccine passport. It will work exactly like the G2G pass.
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I hope all those that are worried about putting a vaccine in their body don't eat chicken or any other mass produced meat. Most cattle is poked and prodded with various antibiotics and vaccines these days, GM growth supplements etc... Even your veggies are probably assisted by lab altered gene splicing and such for pest and weed control, climatic resistance etc.... You are best not eating anything, better still hold your breath if you live near a farm or city, the stuff floating around in the atmosphere might affect you over the long term.....
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Fair enough, but I wouldn’t want to get caught. Fraud can carry jail time. It would be a sad retirement, but again, your choice. I don’t care either way. And for the record, I believe we will have a vaccine passport. It will work exactly like the G2G pass.
I think we will too eventually, but not this year and probably not next year either, it has to go through parliament first I think it will end up in the chip of our current passports.
Jail time, you mean like all those fines that aren't going to get paid.
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Absolutely! and it's not easy to check, unless it has been legislated and comes in the form of a vaccine passport (biochip) it's not worth the paper it's printed on.
Oh yeah, give that a go. Good luck with getting away with that.
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Well, one particular captain (and his wife ) stuck his head above the parapet a few months ago on qrewroom. It will be interesting whether he has the courage of his wife’s convictions.
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Oh yeah, give that a go. Good luck with getting away with that.
Well you have to understand the vaccination certificate is not a legal document like a birth certificate, that's why when you apply for your passport you have to present the "original" document, not a copy. To be a legal document it must have legislation behind it. Neither your company mandate or the vaccine certificate has any such legislation, so it's a bit like presenting an unlawful document to support your unlawful question. It's pointless. The vaccine certificate is for your benefit something to flash so you can go in the pub about all it's useful for.
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Mate well said but you are wasting your time, the indoctrinated are too far gone! They will fight tooth & nail to bring you down, abuse you (it's the Aussie way)! I used to believe that Australia was the country with the most sheep, not so it seems till Covid came along, now we have more sheep that can be counted!:-)
So what you're saying is that if you get vaccinated you're a sheep?
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