Qantas 747-800s?
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Qantas 747-800s?
Qantas 7550
QFA7550 / QF7550
Landing in 6 hours 20 minutes
HNL HONOLULU, HI -SYD SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
took off from Daniel K Inouye Intl - HNL HST (6 minutes early) SATURDAY 14/08/2021 22:22 AEST
landing at Sydney – SYD FRIDAY 13/08/2021 16:55
Aircraft Type: BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748)
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QFA7550 / QF7550
Landing in 6 hours 20 minutes
HNL HONOLULU, HI -SYD SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
took off from Daniel K Inouye Intl - HNL HST (6 minutes early) SATURDAY 14/08/2021 22:22 AEST
landing at Sydney – SYD FRIDAY 13/08/2021 16:55
Aircraft Type: BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748)
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Qantas 7550
QFA7550 / QF7550
Landing in 6 hours 20 minutes
HNL HONOLULU, HI -SYD SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
took off from Daniel K Inouye Intl - HNL HST (6 minutes early) SATURDAY 14/08/2021 22:22 AEST
landing at Sydney – SYD FRIDAY 13/08/2021 16:55
Aircraft Type: BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748)
?????????????????????????
QFA7550 / QF7550
Landing in 6 hours 20 minutes
HNL HONOLULU, HI -SYD SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
took off from Daniel K Inouye Intl - HNL HST (6 minutes early) SATURDAY 14/08/2021 22:22 AEST
landing at Sydney – SYD FRIDAY 13/08/2021 16:55
Aircraft Type: BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748)
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Uggh. 747-8. That's what it's called.
Well technically it’s a BOEING - 747-87UF
Depending on the route freight prices have increased anywhere from 100-500%.
What a lot of people don’t realize is how much freight is shipped on passenger aircraft.
Any aircraft large enough and equipped for pallets or containers will carry cargo as cargo is more profitable then a pax with an Economy seat.
Just for the sake of easy math let’s say that every international passenger flight carries two tons of freight.
The lack of 70 passenger flights would equal a -8F filled to the brim.
Now think of how that cargo gets to its destination with an 70-80-% decrease in passenger flights.
https://www.iata.org/en/iata-reposit...-presentation/
Somebody obviously thinks there are good $$$ to be made.
What a lot of people don’t realize is how much freight is shipped on passenger aircraft.
Any aircraft large enough and equipped for pallets or containers will carry cargo as cargo is more profitable then a pax with an Economy seat.
Just for the sake of easy math let’s say that every international passenger flight carries two tons of freight.
The lack of 70 passenger flights would equal a -8F filled to the brim.
Now think of how that cargo gets to its destination with an 70-80-% decrease in passenger flights.
https://www.iata.org/en/iata-reposit...-presentation/
Last edited by B2N2; 14th Aug 2021 at 23:49.
Even a helicopter operator is considering converting a 747 to a freighter. No money in freight?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-30/aviation-company-looks-to-buy-qantas-jumbo-to-help-fight-fires
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-30/aviation-company-looks-to-buy-qantas-jumbo-to-help-fight-fires
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Obviously need to explain the context of the ‘no money in freight’ comment again.
When Dixon was CEO and QF were facing a bit of a downturn- may have been SARS in ‘04- a question was asked of him (in a public forum if I recall correctly) as to why QF weren’t operating dedicated freighters. His response was “there’s no money in freight”.
Ever since that day whenever a QF crew see a freighter being loaded up chock a block, or hear a ‘Qantas’ (Atlas) call sign, or watch DHL or FedEx or Atlas cross the threshold in front of us, invariably someone who has been around more than a decade will exclaim ‘no money in freight’.
Yes, there’s money in freight. Truck loads of it. Qantas ignored it for quite a long time.
When Dixon was CEO and QF were facing a bit of a downturn- may have been SARS in ‘04- a question was asked of him (in a public forum if I recall correctly) as to why QF weren’t operating dedicated freighters. His response was “there’s no money in freight”.
Ever since that day whenever a QF crew see a freighter being loaded up chock a block, or hear a ‘Qantas’ (Atlas) call sign, or watch DHL or FedEx or Atlas cross the threshold in front of us, invariably someone who has been around more than a decade will exclaim ‘no money in freight’.
Yes, there’s money in freight. Truck loads of it. Qantas ignored it for quite a long time.
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Not always the operator making the big money in freight, who controls the revenue that is loaded on the aircraft is making the money, in this case QF, ACMI rates for operators can only increase to a certain level, a lot of long term ACMI contracts for operators have been contracted before COVID so they have not seen the benefit yet...
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Years ago, on a layover somewhere or other, we (Atlas) were chatting over a couple of beers in the hotel bar with a BA crew. The Capt had the opinion that as they were a proper airline they wouldn't reduce themselves to operating freighters. Hiring us to do it instead.
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Obviously need to explain the context of the ‘no money in freight’ comment again.
When Dixon was CEO and QF were facing a bit of a downturn- may have been SARS in ‘04- a question was asked of him (in a public forum if I recall correctly) as to why QF weren’t operating dedicated freighters. His response was “there’s no money in freight”.
Ever since that day whenever a QF crew see a freighter being loaded up chock a block, or hear a ‘Qantas’ (Atlas) call sign, or watch DHL or FedEx or Atlas cross the threshold in front of us, invariably someone who has been around more than a decade will exclaim ‘no money in freight’.
Yes, there’s money in freight. Truck loads of it. Qantas ignored it for quite a long time.
When Dixon was CEO and QF were facing a bit of a downturn- may have been SARS in ‘04- a question was asked of him (in a public forum if I recall correctly) as to why QF weren’t operating dedicated freighters. His response was “there’s no money in freight”.
Ever since that day whenever a QF crew see a freighter being loaded up chock a block, or hear a ‘Qantas’ (Atlas) call sign, or watch DHL or FedEx or Atlas cross the threshold in front of us, invariably someone who has been around more than a decade will exclaim ‘no money in freight’.
Yes, there’s money in freight. Truck loads of it. Qantas ignored it for quite a long time.
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Further; many years later worked with an American colleague who related a story about having recently returned from 'NAM, received an offer to join, at about seniority #20, a small freight operation. Compensation was, initially, to include significant shares in said company. Knocked it back and regretted it ever since. Think Fedex. No money in freight, indeed!
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