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Old 4th Aug 2021, 22:24
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Enormous and unprecedented concessions have already been made by the VA pilot group. This is a game of coconut cups by Bain. Don't be fooled, the devil is in the detail of the proposed EBA. Don't undermine your worth under a falsehood. NO
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Old 4th Aug 2021, 22:35
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
Will V3 still be around by the time the intangible timelines of "state borders are open" and "more of the population is vaccinated" become more defined?

Can't imagine Bain heavy honchos being happy about continuing to shovel shitloads of $$$$ into the entity for a very unclear period of time.
Probably…..
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Old 4th Aug 2021, 23:37
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Virgin is gearing up to attack a very weak Qantas,watch and see!!
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Old 4th Aug 2021, 23:44
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Didn't we all hear this many years ago?

And we all know how well that worked out.

Yes looking forward again. Please show us something.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 00:27
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Originally Posted by mates rates View Post
Virgin is gearing up to attack a very weak Qantas,watch and see!!
Let’s wait for the year end results to be released to see how weak or not Qantas is!!

Also VA’s target is more likely Rex and Jetstar not Qantas mainline!!
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 02:16
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Red face

Originally Posted by mates rates View Post
Virgin is gearing up to attack a very weak Qantas,watch and see!!
How? They have one flight per capital on Trans-Con routes now? Rumoured to be canceling the CNS/PER service that is due to commence this month. Mmmm...
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 03:56
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VA don’t stand a chance against JQ, unless they cut you guys well below our pay level whilst offering the same service for fares similar to ours. QF already has the top end sorted. Which leaves Rex and JQ will sort them out. JQ at the bottom end of market QF at the top end VA in the middle there.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 04:41
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Sandersonpab, certainly no misinformation or fear mongering coming from the no voters is there? certainly no extra work for the AFAP on the forum disproving the tripe.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 05:16
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Originally Posted by Tabasco James View Post
Enormous and unprecedented concessions have already been made by the VA pilot group. This is a game of coconut cups by Bain. Don't be fooled, the devil is in the detail of the proposed EBA. Don't undermine your worth under a falsehood. NO
Absolutely spot on.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 09:08
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Originally Posted by sandersonpab;[url=tel:11089988
11089988[/url]]Absolutely spot on.
Dont worry Sandersonpab, couple of days and it will all be over and you can stew on it for 3 years.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 21:11
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Originally Posted by TheGoose21 View Post
Dont worry Sandersonpab, couple of days and it will all be over and you can stew on it for 3 years.
Yes, and he will also avail himself of all the protections that our hard working (and unpaid) Rep's have achieved in very difficult times.
He won't be complaing when the good times arrive and he can either off load the flying or take the pay rise that this EBA affords
He won't be buying a beer for the Rep's that have worked tirelessly for the last 3 years for our collective futures.
And he won't be thanking the silent majority (hopefully) who voted YES, that ensured he has a job for as long as we can keep this industry on the rails.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 23:53
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Originally Posted by SierraZuluGolf View Post
It is pretty disgusting and disappointing that they are making the Pilots vote on this during this time
Same was done to the CC. That's what Bain are all about
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 00:28
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Originally Posted by Agent_86 View Post
Same was done to the CC. That's what Bain are all about
The CC situation was very different, but yep that's what they're all about. All those voting in favour of it are the checkies and trainers, as they get a significant pay increase in this EA, of course they're going to be flooding PPRuNe pushing everyone else to vote yes.
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 02:37
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Originally Posted by sandersonpab View Post
The CC situation was very different, but yep that's what they're all about. All those voting in favour of it are the checkies and trainers, as they get a significant pay increase in this EA, of course they're going to be flooding PPRuNe pushing everyone else to vote yes.
How is it a “significant pay increase”? Only the checkies MCG is higher but even then it is a pay cut (approximately 15-16k p.a.) compared to 2018 EBA. Not to mention they lose days off as well. Nice try trying to drive a wedge between us and them.

However, checkies and trainers lose less than line crew but everyone’s taking a haircut.

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Old 6th Aug 2021, 02:50
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Originally Posted by sandersonpab View Post
The CC situation was very different, but yep that's what they're all about. All those voting in favour of it are the checkies and trainers, as they get a significant pay increase in this EA, of course they're going to be flooding PPRuNe pushing everyone else to vote yes.
Not to sure where to start.......

CHECK CAPTAIN previously on $277,750 .............NEW EBA $262,718
SENIOR TRAINING previously on $263,384..............NEW EBA $230,330

MYSELY previously on $$239,440............NEW EBA $200,330

Yes, opportunities to accrue significant overtime, but if you are complaining about pay rises due to overtime then you have lost any credibility you had left.

Perhaps the FACTS don't quite fit with your version of reality.

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Old 6th Aug 2021, 05:06
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Originally Posted by sandersonpab View Post
The CC situation was very different.
How so? CC were expected to vote on the EBA only weeks after Bain took over - much of them still on stand-down with very little access to info from the Company - only what the Union Reps were putting up on 'Workplace'.

It was much the same - Bain says like it or find a new role.
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Old 7th Aug 2021, 00:35
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Meanwhile, in the US:


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Old 7th Aug 2021, 00:57
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Miss Jayne and her gamesmen don’t live in isolation. They are ACUTELY aware of what’s coming and are very motivated to get a deal signed before vaccine rates are high enough for “normality” to return, probably sometime in the next few months.

I have, and will never vote yes to an agreement, especially one that was negotiated at gunpoint and forced down my throat!

Just my 200 grands worth.
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Old 7th Aug 2021, 02:40
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Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay View Post
I have, and will never vote yes to an agreement, especially one that was negotiated at gunpoint and forced down my throat! Just my 200 grands worth.
Completely your right to vote how you like and I completely respect that. Let's just hope you and the rest of the minority play nicely when the 85% odd of your colleagues don't agree with you.
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Old 7th Aug 2021, 02:51
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Originally Posted by SilverSleuth View Post
Completely your right to vote how you like and I completely respect that. Let's just hope you and the rest of the minority play nicely when the 85% odd of your colleagues don't agree with you.
I always play nice mate, the enemy are the ones running the duress tactics and living very comfortably on the proceeds.
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