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New Startup Airline Seeks Funds By Crowd Sourcing

Old 17th May 2021, 08:19
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New Startup Airline Seeks Funds By Crowd Sourcing

Here's an interesting way to start an a new airline in Australia.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/busines...1c97fd32ec0b2d
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Old 17th May 2021, 08:25
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Pilots cannot run airlines.
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Old 17th May 2021, 08:34
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Pilots cannot run airlines.
Especially airlines named after themselves....
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Old 17th May 2021, 08:34
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whatever

mostly I agree, but we are are trying..........
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Old 17th May 2021, 08:36
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I think Wille Walsh ex boss of BA and Carsten Spohr the current boss of Lufthansa might disagree that pilots cannot run airlines. Whilst management pilot is often cited as an oxymoron along the lines of hospital food and military intelligence there are some successful ones.
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Old 17th May 2021, 08:45
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Seems like there's never been a better time to lose other people's money. Any bets on how little they raise?
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Old 17th May 2021, 08:51
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https://www.crowdfundingbrad.com/
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Old 17th May 2021, 09:11
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Pilots cannot run airlines.
Says who? I heard same statement from Wizz Air CEO... Meanwhile, some airlines leaded and started by pilots are on market for 25 years.
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Pilots cannot run airlines.
What's the name of the airline that Hudson Fysh started? :-)
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Old 17th May 2021, 09:36
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Let me rephrase. 99.9% of Pilots cannot run airlines.
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Old 17th May 2021, 10:05
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stupid name to choose for an airline, don't know why they would call it that....
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Old 17th May 2021, 10:10
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It has to be a wind up.. or these people are delusional .

Edit to say.. or a huge con.

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Old 17th May 2021, 10:26
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post

Looks like Terry Byrt has arisen again,,
[both Brad and Terry use the same dentist it seems]
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Old 17th May 2021, 11:07
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From their Go Fund me page...if they donít make their target, they will retain your funds ...


alert alert alert

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Old 17th May 2021, 11:21
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stupid name to choose for an airline, don't know why they would call it that....
It'd make it easier to change the payee details on cheques made out to the company.
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From there Go Fund me page...if they donít make their target, they will retain your funds ...


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Surely these folk and their network of friends could cough up $2.9m of their own money if they had that much confidence in making an airline work.

You need alot more than that amount to get things moving. Plus they don't even know what aircraft type they will be operating yet.

Buyer beware..

"No all contributions are fully non refundable.No all contributions are fully non refundable."

Watch their consultancy fees gobble up all the funding..

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This was done in Jersey about 15 years ago, except it wasn't call "crowd funding". A single half-page ad in the local paper invited people to call for a Prospectus, which had been approved by the financial authorities, and to buy as many £500 interest-bearing debentures as they wished in the new airline, called Islandair Jersey. Other perks were also offered, notably 2 free return seats a year to LGW.

About 350 residents did just that, investing a total of £285,000 within 2-3 weeks. They included most of the great and good, particularly financial movers and shakers. They probably accounted for 75% of the travel purchase decisions in Jersey.

The proposal was to recreate Jersey Airways with t/prop equipment, and take on Flybe, Aurigny and the embryo Blue Island head to head. It needed £2m working capital, at least, to get its AOC. Possibly nearer £5m, even then.

After failing to persuade the VCs and other lenders that few airline start-ups had such good backing and a ready market, the promoters returned the investments and killed the project.

Arguably, they failed due to lack of knowledge or experience of the finance industry, and should, of course, have drawn on the knowledge and expertise of their investors.

But it was a bold attempt.
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Old 17th May 2021, 16:54
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Pilots cannot run airlines.
Gill Air...........untill they got the Fokker
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They probably accounted for 75% of the travel purchase decisions in Jersey.
So let me get this right... The business model involved giving 75% of the target market free seats ? No wonder the investors did not buy it...
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So let me get this right... The business model involved giving 75% of the target market free seats ? No wonder the investors did not buy it...
Most of them would buy at least 10 return trips per year, more if you include family travel, and the offer was for only 2 per year. It was seen at the time as making it an attractive investment. It's the equivalent of share-holders perks in other companies, some of which are extremely valuable. Don't forget that seats that would otherwise be empty have no value, so you're not giving much away. It's the fundamental basis of inter-airline staff travel, freebies for travel agents, and so on..
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