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Old 14th Jul 2021, 06:46
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Originally Posted by transition_alt View Post
...as it’s been getting some work done over at T1/T2 on the odd day here and there
It quite often goes for 'day trips' across to T1/T2 but never seems to have any work performed on it anymore. At one stage they were attempting to repair the gear in PER but it didn't eventuate.
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Old 14th Jul 2021, 10:29
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Technically a challenge.
Not impossible.
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Old 14th Jul 2021, 11:05
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Pretty much any country you’d like to name it’s impossible to go for a walk and not see a perfectly serviceable A330 sitting in the dirt . Why repair a broken one ?
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Old 14th Jul 2021, 13:50
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Originally Posted by Going Nowhere View Post
Getting the manufacturer and CASA to sign off on a ferry permit.
The fact they know exactly what's wrong and the potential for further damage...
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 09:43
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What’s going on over at VA? Many stand downs with the reduced schedule?
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 12:36
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Originally Posted by Double_Clutch View Post
What’s going on over at VA? Many stand downs with the reduced schedule?
Surprisingly no, even for Sydney base. MoU extension being discussed with no lower than 75% pay for the next few months.
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 01:03
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Originally Posted by transition_alt View Post
I saw it in Perth just the other day as it was my first time there since COVID.

It sparked my curiosity. However the captain was adamant it was going back to the lessor very soon as it’s been getting some work done over at T1/T2 on the odd day here and there
Was going for another 'walk' this morning...
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Old 27th Aug 2021, 03:01
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Virgin have just announced the acquisition of an additional 9 B737 taking the total fleet to 77 by end of Feb.

Very positive news….for when state borders eventually open. Whenever that happens to be. Looks like Virgin is banking pretty heavily that things will be pretty open come Summer time
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Old 27th Aug 2021, 03:41
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Add in the MAX order and they will be a 100+ 737 operation in a few years.

Rex are going to have problems getting scale to go up against this. Don’t forget Rex doesn’t have any Sydney slots sort of firmed up in the medium term, they are using gaps in the schedule at the moment. They want the Tiger slots but it appears Jayne does also.
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Old 27th Aug 2021, 04:57
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How many additional crew would this represent on conservative numbers?

Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink View Post
Virgin have just announced the acquisition of an additional 9 B737 taking the total fleet to 77 by end of Feb.

Very positive news….for when state borders eventually open. Whenever that happens to be. Looks like Virgin is banking pretty heavily that things will be pretty open come Summer time
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Old 27th Aug 2021, 05:08
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I think Rex's Boeing 737s will be long gone by the time Virgin's first 737 MAX arrives.
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Old 27th Aug 2021, 06:39
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Originally Posted by poach View Post
How many additional crew would this represent on conservative numbers?
Don’t typical domestic carriers run at approximately 5 crew per aircraft, give or take?
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Old 27th Aug 2021, 09:17
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“Real “airlines use to operate at 6 crews per aircraft plus checkers.So I guess in these lean and mean times 5 crews would be pretty close to the numbers.With 9 more aircraft coming and 88 “inactive” pilots being recalled the numbers look correct.
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Old 28th Aug 2021, 03:31
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Originally Posted by mates rates View Post
“Real “airlines use to operate at 6 crews per aircraft plus checkers.So I guess in these lean and mean times 5 crews would be pretty close to the numbers.With 9 more aircraft coming and 88 “inactive” pilots being recalled the numbers look correct.
Id say you right there. No additional crew required after the 88 as of yet. Takes the total number close to 880. Management have been hell bent on the training of the returning crew, to the detriment of current crew as they are “taking” sectors for line flying. Which means greater number of stand down days for crew. More bodies with f all flying on at the moment. Management have a grand plan and it’s certainly being kept a closely guarded secret. Looking forward to next year to see how it all plays out.
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Old 28th Aug 2021, 04:04
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It’s a ploy by Qantas, they know there is nothing going on next year ,but they are playing a game , VA will spend all their cash on retraining and extra aircraft to compete with Qantas ,which will not get used they will fall close to the brink and so may Qantas who would get a government Bail out !
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Old 28th Aug 2021, 07:55
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Probably rule out VH-VOS apparently suffering from corrosion being parked for so long. This aircraft was not owned by VA.

Some talk that VH-VUI and VH-VUJ in which are in the US are preparing a return to Australia soon.

VH-VOL and VH-VOO currently at Seletar Singapore.

VH-VOQ is stored at Alice Springs.

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Old 28th Aug 2021, 09:23
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737s look like they will come from SilkAir. Mid last decade age wise.

Pretty close comparable config.

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Old 28th Aug 2021, 12:25
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Correct me if I’m wrong but the 88 were for previous aircraft. These 9 will require more.



QUOTE=PoppaJo;11102478]737s look like

they will come from SilkAir. Mid last decade age wise.

Pretty close comparable config.[/QUOTE]
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Old 29th Aug 2021, 16:14
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Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink View Post
Don’t typical domestic carriers run at approximately 5 crew per aircraft, give or take?
Regional & Short-haul ~ 6 pair min.
Medium Haul ~ 9-12
Long Haul / ULH ~ 13-16
Much of this depends heavily on whether the company runs an efficiency / optimisation / bidding program... such as Kronos which works well... unless its Alerts are constantly overridden
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Old 29th Aug 2021, 16:16
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Silkair machines. Due from this week. MSNs 44222, 44223, 44224, 44225, 44226, 44232 and 44233

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