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Old 1st May 2021, 06:51
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QF A380’s

Any truth to the rumour that one of the non-configured 380’s needs to be flown out of Victorville next month.
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Old 1st May 2021, 12:00
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What - to be configured ??
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Old 1st May 2021, 13:49
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A few of 380 fleet are going to have their mid life service done in Dresden. You can expect a couple of them to make the hop across the hill from VCV to LAX for gear swings before ferrying to Dresden. One was supposed to be in the next few days but got pushed a bit further to the right. Not sure the time frame on the others.

I’m not sure that this Dresden service includes the upgraded interiors (of which I think 6 were done) and is more like a heavy D check used to be on the Boeings.

Either way it’s good news for the A380 fleet and shows the confidence Qantas management still has in them to make a buck when there are few international restrictions. Personally I reckon we’re a chance of seeing them in revenue service before the end of 2022. Nothing official, just reading between the lines.
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Hi Keg,

Qantas would liked to not have had to do anything.
sadly for them if They didn’t do the gear swings and D checks those aircraft would become coke cans.
So it was done to keep options available “potentially”.
There is absolutely no guarantee how many or if any A380’s return.Qantas said in a zoom call just this week there is no way they are coming back till 2024.
Dec 2023 at the absolute earliest.Given the Feds 180 on vaccine policy it’s likely that’s delayed even further given the border restrictions won’t be lifted till well into 2022 or later.



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Old 2nd May 2021, 02:24
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I acknowledge the gear swings are necessary. The mid life update is not though. It’s not an insignificant cost and they wouldn’t be expending it if they didn’t think the aeroplanes were coming back. They’re choosing to do this now because they reckon they’ll need the jets back and are getting the work done whilst there isn’t much work for them,

As to when the jet comes back, there are a number of different audiences for whom the current narrative is important. There are a few different things occurring external to that narrative. I won’t go into too much detail here but feel free to give me a buzz.
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As to when the jet comes back, there are a number of different audiences for whom the current narrative is important.
Very interesting - I’d be keen to know more!
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I admit that I thought that the A380’s would not return to service in Qantas but, if you can believe recent statements by Joyce, they look like returning.

I suspect they won’t need all 12 of them as QF already had pre COVID plans to replace the A380 with B787 on the SYD-DFW-SYD route (in conjunction with a AA B787 operating DFW-BNE-DFW) and the LHR via SIN route already reduced to one service per day (pre COVID) there doesn’t appear to enough flying for all of them. This would be an opportunity to dispose of the 3 “Wave 1” aircraft which have a higher empty weight & bespoke circuits/system layouts as SQ did with their first 5 “Wave 1” A380’s. I understand that these aircraft have not had the upper deck refurbished and, if they are disposed of, they would be a great source of spare parts - especially engines. This would effectively lower the cost of operating the other 9 aircraft for the remainder of their service life. Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by Going Boeing View Post
I admit that I thought that the A380’s would not return to service in Qantas but, if you can believe recent statements by Joyce, they look like returning.

I suspect they won’t need all 12 of them as QF already had pre COVID plans to replace the A380 with B787 on the SYD-DFW-SYD route (in conjunction with a AA B787 operating DFW-BNE-DFW) and the LHR via SIN route already reduced to one service per day (pre COVID) there doesn’t appear to enough flying for all of them. This would be an opportunity to dispose of the 3 “Wave 1” aircraft which have a higher empty weight & bespoke circuits/system layouts as SQ did with their first 5 “Wave 1” A380’s. I understand that these aircraft have not had the upper deck refurbished and, if they are disposed of, they would be a great source of spare parts - especially engines. This would effectively lower the cost of operating the other 9 aircraft for the remainder of their service life. Time will tell.
6 aircraft have been reconfigured & some had it done in conjunction with a heavy maintenance check so you may find that 1 or more of these could be a 'wave 1' aircraft.
Disposing of them would not have been a consideration when the planning was being done.
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At The latest A380 zoom the Qantas managers explained the reason to do the maintenance was because if they didn’t, the aircraft could never have the option of being used in the future.They would become scrap.This doesn’t translate to a guarantee they are coming back and is misinformation.
There are no guarantees to bring any or all of the A380s back.Anyone selling this as fact is disingenuous.
The A380s may or may not come back and not until 2024 at the earliest.anyone saying otherwise is telling BS.


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Old 3rd May 2021, 08:55
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Originally Posted by blubak View Post
6 aircraft have been reconfigured & some had it done in conjunction with a heavy maintenance check so you may find that 1 or more of these could be a 'wave 1' aircraft.
The “Wave 1” aircraft are obviously QPA/B/C and the registrations that I have seen of the 6 aircraft that have had the upper deck refurbishment were much later builds.
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Airbus A330’s ??
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Old 3rd May 2021, 11:42
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Old config, OQ: A, B, C, E, F, L

New config, OQ: D, G, H, I, J, K
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Old 3rd May 2021, 18:09
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
Airbus A330’s ??
Sorry, old age memory failure. OQA/B/C.

Thanks Ruprect for the correct details.

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Originally Posted by ruprecht View Post
Old config, OQ: A, B, C, E, F, L

New config, OQ: D, G, H, I, J, K
Ok,thats good info.
Have heard its OQC thats being readied to fly.
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Old 3rd May 2021, 22:57
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Keeping options open (expensively) to fly an old A380 with zero resale value and suspect future utility sure seems like a craven industrial ploy the more I cynically think about it.
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REX will pickup the refurbished A380s at a bargain price and become Australia’s premium carrier. Qantas will revert back to a bi-plane operation and Jetstar will be what Qantas is today.

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REX will pickup the refurbished A380s at a bargain price and become Australia’s premium carrier. Qantas will revert back to a bi-plane operation and Jetstar will be what Qantas is today.


LOL

Not hard to believe in the current climate actually.
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Old 5th May 2021, 02:27
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Originally Posted by Duck Pilot View Post
REX will pickup the refurbished A380s at a bargain price and become Australia’s premium carrier. Qantas will revert back to a bi-plane operation and Jetstar will be what Qantas is today.
How on earth could anyone say something so ridiculous!

Everyone knows Qantas will go back to flying boats
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