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Old 21st Jul 2021, 00:15
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Whilst on the subject of AZ I thought this was interesting.


Data released last week from the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows that 35 per cent of unvaccinated people aged 50 to 69 and 26 per cent aged 70 and over cited “wanting a different vaccine” as a factor in their “ability to get a Covid-19 vaccination”. This compares with 7 and 9 per cent of those aged 18 to 34 and 35 to 49.

But what if the problems plaguing the AZ vaccine were breathtakingly simple all along?

On June 29, scientists from Germany authored a paper that was published in pre-print form on the biology server hosted by the world-leading Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory. It provided compelling evidence that the clotting syndrome associated with the AZ vaccine is caused by accidental intravenous injection.

The paper, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, showed in animal tests that the clotting can be induced when the injection site nicks a blood vessel instead of hitting the deltoid muscle. It could be avoided with a harmless procedure known as aspirating the syringe, which is standard in some countries around the world. Simply, the health professional draws back on the syringe at the injection site to check for blood before delivering the inoculation. In March, Denmark changed its guidelines to account for this as a precautionary measure. The theory had been circulating for months.

The Saturday Paper can reveal the TGA is aware of the paper and is considering its implications. “If the TGA determines that further regulatory action is required on the basis of emerging evidence,” a spokesperson said, “we will make this information available promptly.”
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Old 21st Jul 2021, 00:37
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Are you able to provide a link to that Fonz? sounds interesting.

I found a French theory.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fren...aZeneca-issues

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Old 21st Jul 2021, 06:19
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I can’t find the original paper but this article contains a bit more info.


https://www.indiatoday.in/coronaviru...416-2021-07-03
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Old 21st Jul 2021, 06:39
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Originally Posted by Fonz121 View Post
Whilst on the subject of AZ I thought this was interesting.


Data released last week from the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows that 35 per cent of unvaccinated people aged 50 to 69 and 26 per cent aged 70 and over cited “wanting a different vaccine” as a factor in their “ability to get a Covid-19 vaccination”. This compares with 7 and 9 per cent of those aged 18 to 34 and 35 to 49.

But what if the problems plaguing the AZ vaccine were breathtakingly simple all along?

On June 29, scientists from Germany authored a paper that was published in pre-print form on the biology server hosted by the world-leading Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory. It provided compelling evidence that the clotting syndrome associated with the AZ vaccine is caused by accidental intravenous injection.

The paper, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, showed in animal tests that the clotting can be induced when the injection site nicks a blood vessel instead of hitting the deltoid muscle. It could be avoided with a harmless procedure known as aspirating the syringe, which is standard in some countries around the world. Simply, the health professional draws back on the syringe at the injection site to check for blood before delivering the inoculation. In March, Denmark changed its guidelines to account for this as a precautionary measure. The theory had been circulating for months.

The Saturday Paper can reveal the TGA is aware of the paper and is considering its implications. “If the TGA determines that further regulatory action is required on the basis of emerging evidence,” a spokesperson said, “we will make this information available promptly.”
I read the same thing. I'm pretty sure I also heard a few months back that "scientists in Germany were close to determining what causes the clotting".
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Old 21st Jul 2021, 07:20
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Originally Posted by Fonz121 View Post
I can’t find the original paper but this article contains a bit more info.


https://www.indiatoday.in/coronaviru...416-2021-07-03
Also for a tutorial on the subject Youtube "Dr John Campbell Aspirate to vaccinate", the first 10min he gives a good explanation. This goes back to 16 April 21.
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 12:30
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AJ’s focus is clearly emulating this big airline CEO

I know most have seen it before but thought with what’s going on right now with QF and AJ, this was quite pertinent...

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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 22:47
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Originally Posted by stillcallozhome View Post
I know most have seen it before but thought with what’s going on right now with QF and AJ, this was quite pertinent...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=858t44psmww
Havent seen it before but a few in this country could & need to take note.
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 04:30
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Sounds like a bit of a bastard play by Qantas.

Qantas has settled a case brought against the airline by Captain Andrew Hewitt, who had alleged he was the victim of age discrimination.
The son of former Qantas chairman Sir Lenox Hewitt was offered early retirement rather than redundancy when the Covid-19 pandemic struck last year, because he was over 63.
Qantas’s reasoning was that pilots like Captain Hewitt would reach age 65 before international flying was able to resume, which would rule them out of operating overseas commercial flights.
Under international civil aviation laws, a pilot cannot operate international airline flights after reaching 65.
Captain Hewitt argued that an early retirement package was worth considerably less than redundancy, at the equivalent of four months pay as opposed to 12 months.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...7fda7f5bff3304
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 07:19
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Sounds like a bit of a bastard play by Qantas.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...7fda7f5bff3304
There is no level too low for Joyce. When it comes to money and corporate bonuses he will do whatever it takes to keep his pockets filled. He would have staff squashing coke cans and taking them to a Mascot recycling center if it means earning a couple of cents extra. A persons length of service, loyalty, position in society or anything else is irrelevant. Alan is all about Alan, always has been and always will be. One day he will parachute off into the sunset with his husband and to be honest it can’t come too soon. A selfish little garden gnome who has not an ethical or moral bone in his body. The poster boy for narcissism, egotism and corporate greed.

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Old 27th Jul 2021, 07:23
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Originally Posted by blubak View Post
Havent seen it before but a few in this country could & need to take note.
The difference is that many Japanese CEO’s ‘share’ corporate wealth within the company and they possess a small but actual moral compass and sense of loyalty to their staff. Joyce is all about Joyce. A selfish, pathetic amoeba that would sell his mother if it earned him $20.00. A spineless little toad that makes staff feel sick every time he jumps into 1A.
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 08:03
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Originally Posted by MelbourneFlyer View Post
Sounds like a bit of a bastard play by Qantas.
How is that? Are you suggesting that QF should have paid him 12 months VR package even though he only had 11 months until retirement age? Where do you draw the line on that? What about someone who had (say) 9 months until retirement? 3 months?
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 09:06
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How is that? Are you suggesting that QF should have paid him 12 months VR package even though he only had 11 months until retirement age? Where do you draw the line on that? What about someone who had (say) 9 months until retirement? 3 months?
Why not? After all those loyal years of service, would it be so bad to do one iota more than legally necessary?
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 09:31
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The VR offer was not ‘legally necessary’. It was an offer. If a pilot had more than a couple of years the offer was 9 months and three months notice. If the pilot had less than two years it was four months pay and less than 12 months the offer was three months.

Qantas didn’t have to make the offer. They could have offered nothing. They could have worked on the principle that some crew were likely to hit 65 before there was much flying back. They could have offered VR to some and not to others. That is the nature of VR. (In fact they did offer it to some and not others. It wasn’t offered to 737 crew).

They chose to make an offer of ‘early retirement’ to those over 63. Even the ATO agreed that those within 6 months (I think) of 65 it wasn’t a ‘genuine early retirement’ and their pay out was taxed differently.

Would I have liked to see a better offer? Sure. But the offer was what it was. Again, where does one draw the line in all of this?
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 04:14
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post
The VR offer was not ‘legally necessary’. It was an offer. If a pilot had more than a couple of years the offer was 9 months and three months notice. If the pilot had less than two years it was four months pay and less than 12 months the offer was three months.

Qantas didn’t have to make the offer. They could have offered nothing. They could have worked on the principle that some crew were likely to hit 65 before there was much flying back. They could have offered VR to some and not to others. That is the nature of VR. (In fact they did offer it to some and not others. It wasn’t offered to 737 crew).

They chose to make an offer of ‘early retirement’ to those over 63. Even the ATO agreed that those within 6 months (I think) of 65 it wasn’t a ‘genuine early retirement’ and their pay out was taxed differently.

Would I have liked to see a better offer? Sure. But the offer was what it was. Again, where does one draw the line in all of this?
I hear you, but still believe QF could choose not to be such asses. But they don’t. :-)
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 09:56
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Paragraph377,

Pray tell me, what has Alan Joyce done to you that warrants such vitriolic and hateful posts? I hope you have a good lawyer.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 19:43
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Originally Posted by Ken Borough View Post
Paragraph377,

Pray tell me, what has Alan Joyce done to you that warrants such vitriolic and hateful posts? I hope you have a good lawyer.
Other airline CEOs at least pretend they value their staff.
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 02:56
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Originally Posted by Ken Borough View Post
Paragraph377,

Pray tell me, what has Alan Joyce done to you that warrants such vitriolic and hateful posts? I hope you have a good lawyer.
Ken, while I agree with you that it’s not appropriate to place offensive posts on any site like this, Joyce’s extreme narcissistic behaviour has got a lot of staff angry enough to use offensive terms.
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 03:35
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I think P377's post is actually toned down compared to what he has put out in the past. anyway I am very sure Ken that he will spend less than a nano-second worrying about what you think.
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 04:52
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Originally Posted by Ken Borough View Post
Paragraph377,

Pray tell me, what has Alan Joyce done to you that warrants such vitriolic and hateful posts? I hope you have a good lawyer.
So, are you going to defend Mr Joyce's behaviour? Taking $200k a week whilst most of Long Haul got $0?
Are you serious? Are you an Qantas Angel?
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 08:03
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Originally Posted by Lookleft View Post
I think P377's post is actually toned down compared to what he has put out in the past. anyway I am very sure Ken that he will spend less than a nano-second worrying about what you think.
Aagh my sparring partner, so true. I have toned things down quite a bit these days, it’s an age thing. And indeed I care naught about anything Ken thinks or says 👍
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