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Old 4th Jun 2021, 20:37
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No i don't think its 'safe to say' that.
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Old 4th Jun 2021, 20:55
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Why spend half a billion dollars plus ongoing cost on facilities then?
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Old 4th Jun 2021, 21:21
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Why spend half a billion dollars plus ongoing cost on facilities then?

maybe thatís where we are going to lock all the anti vaxxers.
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 01:10
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
maybe thatís where we are going to lock all the anti vaxxers.

F&%k that made me laugh!! Thanks.. I needed it )
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 01:15
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maybe thatís where we are going to lock all the anti vaxxers.
jokes aside it may be used from time to time for unvaccinated travellers
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 02:57
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Originally Posted by SHVC
Would it be safe to say QF international is dead for the foreseeable future? I mean, think about it Feds have no intention on opening our international border for many many yrs if theyíre willing to contribute 200 million into Victoriaís quarantine facility, QLD have just had their 300 million faculty rejected due to changes the feds want. Iím sure it will get approved at some point tho.

Im thinking 2022 is a pipe dream and untill world elimination of Covid we will be seeing borders closed and state wide lockdowns over 1 case.
Disagree. Rhetoric is changing - a push for vaccinating and opening up is becoming part of the conversation.

Experiencing first hand the rapid changes in the US and UK. The media / sentiment in both places is positive and getting closer to opening up to travel in a safe and structured way. Once we in Oz see whatís happening and see how safe and easy it can be, even the local ďbut theyíve kept us safeĒ evangelist will be chomping at the bit..

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Old 5th Jun 2021, 03:19
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Originally Posted by maggot
jokes aside it may be used from time to time for unvaccinated travellers
Dont know if there would be any such thing - Iíd say most of the world, including Oz will require a vaccination to enter the country.
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 06:02
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Itíll become the next immigration detention centre post covid.

Thereís a few years worth of asylum seekers to catch up on now, and there will be a flood of them when the world starts to open up again. Australia has done relatively well through this crisis and there will be many ready to try their fortunes when the time comes.

I hope Iím wrong. However I doubt it.
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 07:06
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I think the zero tolerance is embedded in the public’s brain now, international travelers will not be welcomed by the average John and Jane. We will watch rest of the world move on and we will be still squabbling over 1 or 2 cases here and there watching the Victoria circus whilst still casting opinions on Lord Farquaad over in the west.
What we have now is what we will have in 2023, not that I want it I’m keen to open up and travel but one has to be realistic no one is going to put their name to open the international border then have the next covid death even if it’s not related to an international traveler on their watch.
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 07:32
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Originally Posted by SHVC
Why spend half a billion dollars plus ongoing cost on facilities then?
To be seen as doing something while in reality achieving nothing to appeal to the masses, this applies to both the State and Federal governments.
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 09:40
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Originally Posted by beautiful_butterfly
No democratic government with an upcoming election is going to announce that borders will remain closed during the election year.

The date will continue to be moved.

Vaccine efficacy against the existing mutation strains is not high enough to achieve heard immunity within this round of vaccinations. Boosters will be required prior to open borders.

The PM is spinning the line ‘these facilities being proposed by Vic will supplement hotel quarantine’. BULLDUST. It MAY end up being essential if the mutations develop vaccine escape qualities and with the number of infections occurring in humans (and possibly, eventually in another species) that is probable.

Qantas will still have useful repatriation work and possible bubbles (albeit minimal).
I honestly think people are confused about the role of vaccines. The main job of a vaccine is to prevent serious illness requiring hospitalisation and death, not to stop you from getting infected all all. If that is the case, we'd shut down 12 months a year cause the flu season is opposite to each other in the Northern and Southern hemisphere ...
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 09:51
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I honestly think people are confused about the role of vaccines. The main job of a vaccine is to prevent serious illness requiring hospitalisation and death, not to stop you from getting infected all all. If that is the case, we'd shut down 12 months a year cause the flu season is opposite to each other in the Northern and Southern hemisphere ...
This and many more FACTS about vaccination could easily be propagated by some decent advertising by the government.

By contrast, every TV / Radio ad in the UK and the US is pro vaccination and urging people to get the jab..
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 11:17
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Meanwhile in Melbourne more anti vaxers wee arrested today, in a place where you think they would want it so they could protest legally. Australia!..... can’t make this sh!t up haha
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Originally Posted by thec172man
I honestly think people are confused about the role of vaccines. The main job of a vaccine is to prevent serious illness requiring hospitalisation and death, not to stop you from getting infected all all. If that is the case, we'd shut down 12 months a year cause the flu season is opposite to each other in the Northern and Southern hemisphere ...
The transmissibility of the virus from vaccinated people is difficult to get data on in the early stages. But more and more data is coming in, and itís looking good.

Evidence is increasing that, not only do COVID-19 vaccines either stop you getting sick or substantially reduce the severity of your symptoms, they are also likely to substantially reduce the chance of transmitting the virus to others.
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/cli...cines-do-reduc
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 22:45
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Meanwhile in Melbourne more anti vaxers wee arrested today, in a place where you think they would want it so they could protest legally. Australia!..... canít make this sh!t up haha
Arent these anti vaxxers actually anti everything!
They pop up as human rights fighters,as BLM promoters & whatever other agenda suits them at the time.
They should go to china or nth korea & see how that plays out.
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 22:50
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Originally Posted by thec172man
I honestly think people are confused about the role of vaccines. The main job of a vaccine is to prevent serious illness requiring hospitalisation and death, not to stop you from getting infected all all. If that is the case, we'd shut down 12 months a year cause the flu season is opposite to each other in the Northern and Southern hemisphere ...
Confused by radio talkback hosts who question every medical fact produced even though they have no medical qualifications themselves & let down by a government too interested in promoting irrelevant facts about the vaccination program rather than as you say tellling people how it works & what protection it gives.
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 05:51
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The fact is the government is not going to allow “normal” outbound international travel until all Australians “stuck” overseas eventually get home.
Right now that’s a relative trickle, and without a change in policy, this will continue on at roughly the current rates.
Hopefully with inter-Europe and Europe-USA travel picking up, more and more aussies become jealous/envious and change their tune on the old “I’m good with keeping the borders closed”.
Ideally at some point freedom to travel in and out will be allowed, meaning anyone who wants to come home can - but as long as there is supervised quarantine required, this is a pipe dream in Australia
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 08:38
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Australia will be a lonely country in a big world soon. Life will go on and w will be still fussing over a cough we heard in the supermarket. That is the reality ppl.
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 12:21
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Australia will be a lonely country in a big world soon. Life will go on and w will be still fussing over a cough we heard in the supermarket. That is the reality ppl.
100% spot on.
And the economic fallout will be massive in the long term. Sure we are sailing right now but itís all short lived. The rest of the world will move on without us sadly.
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 00:31
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Seriously though, does anyone actually really believe the borders will open again?

not going to happen open! Sorry!

There's way too much fear and paranoia
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