Government's $1.2 billion 'ticket to recovery' offers 800,000 half-price airfares
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I fail to see how this will change anything...
People have been on JobKeeper for a year now (including people not in aviation / tourism). This support is about to end.
The government want people to start taking local holidays, which are already more expensive than international holidays most of the time.
So they give half price flights to 800,000 people. What were these fares originally? $100-150? So they’ve saved $50-75 each way.
People still need to pay thousands for the rest of their holiday that hasn’t been offered support. Albeit, a small ‘low interest’ loan.
What a joke.
People have been on JobKeeper for a year now (including people not in aviation / tourism). This support is about to end.
The government want people to start taking local holidays, which are already more expensive than international holidays most of the time.
So they give half price flights to 800,000 people. What were these fares originally? $100-150? So they’ve saved $50-75 each way.
People still need to pay thousands for the rest of their holiday that hasn’t been offered support. Albeit, a small ‘low interest’ loan.
What a joke.
So what exactly does this mean for us international crew?
“Airlines will receive federal payments to keep about 8600 workers in jobs until international travel resumes in November, with Qantas and Virgin asked to prove their readiness to restart long-haul flights.”
Doesn’t inspire confidence that we’ll actually receive any cash to get us by until then. Hope I’m wrong.
“Airlines will receive federal payments to keep about 8600 workers in jobs until international travel resumes in November, with Qantas and Virgin asked to prove their readiness to restart long-haul flights.”
Doesn’t inspire confidence that we’ll actually receive any cash to get us by until then. Hope I’m wrong.
Agreed. It’s a huge effing joke and shows how the Pollies in their Can’tberra bubble are totally disconnected from reality. Cheaper airfares? Yeah right, for who? For people who have lost their businesses, barely eeking out an existence on unemployment benefits, lost their homes? These jerks in Can’tberra are acting like COVID doesn’t exist and never did. Everything is normal. Then, as has been mentioned, why would you invest your precious few pennies in a planned holiday when morons like Politicians threaten to shut borders when a fragment of old COVID is found in a Pensioners turd in a sewerage treatment plant, or the local school headmaster sneezes or heaven forbid some pre-school kid catches knits!!!! Quick quick shut Australia down. Absolute jerkoffs who have no idea whatsoever.
I initially thought this was a pretty poorly conceived idea, but naming actual tourist hotspots (sorry for the dirty word) in every state and territory that will directly benefit from this is probably a smart way to put pressure on state governments to think more carefully about flippantly closing borders. I guess we’ll soon see how popular it is with uptake.
I think payments will be direct to employees but will be conditional on maintaining a level of training, simulators, EPs etc. If you have a second job and can’t be flexible to attend training, you’ll probably not qualify. Just my thoughts.
Yeah it’s become clearer now with emails from the company and it looks like it might be similar to JK which will be a huge help.
The vast majority of the population seem to be going great guns and us aviation and tourism folk are the only ones feeling like there’s an actual pandemic going on.
Wow, open your eyes.
Do you remember the live entertainment industry? Concerts? Festivals? Tours? Theatre?
Bars and restaurants not allowed to operate at 100% capacity.
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I heard Tin Foil Hat 2 this morning on the Ben Fordham program saying that fat cat rich Qantas pilots should get no assistance because they have jobs and are all sitting on millions of dollars of assets. All assistance to pilots should be paid to semi-literate emotionally stunted members of his fan club only
Yes, all getting back at it. My folks went to a theatre production at The Powerhouse the other day. But yeah I guess if domestic tourism is getting help then so should these guys.
Not comparable to the dire position of international employees however.
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Rex should be eligible for these tickets as they are launching flights to the Gold Coast. They will probably start a Cairns service now. They are in the business of chasing incentives which is how they survive.
If they are not we all know they will blame their demise on unfair treatment.
If they are not we all know they will blame their demise on unfair treatment.
And my local cafe owner (and we are in Melbourne) who was doing it very tough in the middle of last year says now business is up 20% on this time last year (pre Covid).
So unfortunately I do agree - those in the aviation and tourism sectors are in a bubble where things are still very tough. I don’t doubt there are other industries in similar situations - however there are a lot of Australians out there who have plenty of cash because they haven’t been able to spend as much recently.
I do hope this new government package works out (and I have been pretty scathing of the governments handling of most things to date) - more people travelling is a great thing for the economy overall.
Rex should be eligible for these tickets as they are launching flights to the Gold Coast. They will probably start a Cairns service now. They are in the business of chasing incentives which is how they survive.
If they are not we all know they will blame their demise on unfair treatment.
If they are not we all know they will blame their demise on unfair treatment.
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Windge windge windge.
all these complaints about something designed to help. REGARDLESS of how minor it is, it’s something but to everyone here it’s just not good enough.
typical pilots, god, you’d think this pandemic would have helped to change your perspective.... but I guess nothing will.
all these complaints about something designed to help. REGARDLESS of how minor it is, it’s something but to everyone here it’s just not good enough.
typical pilots, god, you’d think this pandemic would have helped to change your perspective.... but I guess nothing will.
I can only speak from my own personal experiences - plenty of my friends who are employed as lawyers, accounts, who manage construction companies and tradies are all saying that business is pretty good at the moment. Most of my tradie mates are saying the last 12 months has been very busy for them.
And my local cafe owner (and we are in Melbourne) who was doing it very tough in the middle of last year says now business is up 20% on this time last year (pre Covid).
So unfortunately I do agree - those in the aviation and tourism sectors are in a bubble where things are still very tough. I don’t doubt there are other industries in similar situations - however there are a lot of Australians out there who have plenty of cash because they haven’t been able to spend as much recently.
I do hope this new government package works out (and I have been pretty scathing of the governments handling of most things to date) - more people travelling is a great thing for the economy overall.
And my local cafe owner (and we are in Melbourne) who was doing it very tough in the middle of last year says now business is up 20% on this time last year (pre Covid).
So unfortunately I do agree - those in the aviation and tourism sectors are in a bubble where things are still very tough. I don’t doubt there are other industries in similar situations - however there are a lot of Australians out there who have plenty of cash because they haven’t been able to spend as much recently.
I do hope this new government package works out (and I have been pretty scathing of the governments handling of most things to date) - more people travelling is a great thing for the economy overall.
It is clear the government is keen to move beyond the survival period of the pandemic ,which was what JobKeeper was all about, to a new phase where struggling sectors are assisted in standing back up. Sadly, not all businesses will make it but endless subsidies to zombie businesses is not the answer.
[QUOTE=1A_Please;11006233...with airlines such as JQ looking at deploying its int'l 787 fleet onto domestic routes and you'd assume QF will do the same with its A330s...[/QUOTE]
QF have already replaced a number of BNE/PER/BNE 737 services with A330's in order for the 737's to redeployed on the East Coast runs and potentially the Pacific Islands - routes vacated by VA...
QF have already replaced a number of BNE/PER/BNE 737 services with A330's in order for the 737's to redeployed on the East Coast runs and potentially the Pacific Islands - routes vacated by VA...
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He didn’t take long.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...d67555eda83713
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...d67555eda83713
Regional Express airline has branded the federal government’s aviation support package as a “Qantas bailout” that will advantage the country’s biggest carrier at the expense of others.
The criticism by Rex deputy chairman John Sharp comes as tourism industry leaders voice their disappointment in the package, which offers half-price airfares and cheap loans to operators but not an extension of JobKeeper.
Qantas and Virgin Australia have both welcomed the $1.2bn lifeline, designed to stimulate domestic travel between the states and territories and help the airlines retain skilled workers.
Around 800,000 half-price fares will be offered in the next four months, including 550,000 on Qantas and Jetstar flights – or 32,000 a week.
The criticism by Rex deputy chairman John Sharp comes as tourism industry leaders voice their disappointment in the package, which offers half-price airfares and cheap loans to operators but not an extension of JobKeeper.
Qantas and Virgin Australia have both welcomed the $1.2bn lifeline, designed to stimulate domestic travel between the states and territories and help the airlines retain skilled workers.
Around 800,000 half-price fares will be offered in the next four months, including 550,000 on Qantas and Jetstar flights – or 32,000 a week.
But anyone who thinks VA hasn't got any interest in operating internationally again, in whatever capacity that may be then they have rocks in their heads.
Auckland counts as international. Winter flights to Christchurch for skiers...
Correct, VA has clearly stated they are interested in restarting int'l services to DPS, NAN and NZ when they can. They are probably a bit more equivocal on any int'l services that require them to operate their own widebody fleets so routes such as LAX and HND are probably off the agenda for the next few years at least.