EK suspending flights from East Coast Oz
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I did some back of the fag packet calculations earlier and even if every resident in Australia is vaccinated (which is a long shot), that still would leave around a million vaccinated inhabitants that are unlikely to have developed immunity, based on the published efficacy rates for western vaccines that are being used so far.
With no vaccine ever being 100% effective along with the current zero tolerance towards the virus at a government level, I struggle to see the border ever opening freely ever again unless there is a change in tactics from the government.
With no vaccine ever being 100% effective along with the current zero tolerance towards the virus at a government level, I struggle to see the border ever opening freely ever again unless there is a change in tactics from the government.
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Certainty no doubt about it. It will even be a requirement to have it to work in the tourism industry so for the anti vax Pilots they will be in for a rude shock. Other vaccines are a requirement to work in certain industry this will be now different.
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In 20 years with the Air Force cadets I spent my fair share of time on a number of RAAF and Army bases around Australia. The suggestion that there are ‘thousands of rooms’ on military facilities in Australia that could be easily converted to accommodation suitable for Covid quarantine is not based in reality.
Certainty no doubt about it. It will even be a requirement to have it to work in the tourism industry so for the anti vax Pilots they will be in for a rude shock. Other vaccines are a requirement to work in certain industry this will be now different.
From what I have read so far on this what you are suggesting is legal minefield.
In 20 years with the Air Force cadets I spent my fair share of time on a number of RAAF and Army bases around Australia. The suggestion that there are ‘thousands of rooms’ on military facilities in Australia that could be easily converted to accommodation suitable for Covid quarantine is not based in reality.
Bbbut I read it here, surely this isn’t some little third rate echo chamber...
At my employer vaccination in voluntary and 3/4 of the flight crew have put their hands up so far. When asked if not being vaccinated would affect your roster, the reply was that we would have to comply with local entry requirements which might preclude unvaccinated crew from operating certain flights.
Not having the jab could mean a 20 hour month instead of an 80 hour one, your choice.
Not having the jab could mean a 20 hour month instead of an 80 hour one, your choice.
Trump did more for the USA in 4 years than Obama in 8 years. China and the Middle East are going walk over Biden.
Reason Trump was a business man first not a politician. He got the rust belt areas out of the doldrums knew how to create jobs.
Plus he stood up to China, manufactured more goods in the US, and had a North Korean shrimp on the barbie with rocket man.........
Reason Trump was a business man first not a politician. He got the rust belt areas out of the doldrums knew how to create jobs.
Plus he stood up to China, manufactured more goods in the US, and had a North Korean shrimp on the barbie with rocket man.........
And by the way, Obama didn't have control of the senate for 6 of his 8 yrs.
Thats your opinion.
Producing statistics that include 2019 data is irrelevant, but what is factual is there has been no Covid related death in Australia from the 1st November 2020 to present. The number of suicides do not unfortunately match that number. As we know we can hide behind statistics and make them say whatever, so we will never know what the reasons are, but to deny it is untrue and irresponsible.
But I’ll leave it at this and in the words of the experts;
“Australia's suicide rate could increase by as much as 50% as the economic and social impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic take their toll on people's mental health, experts predicted on Thursday.
In a joint statement, a group of Australian mental health experts warned that the impact of the COVID-19 on the economy and more broadly, could cause an extra 1,500 suicides per year on top of the current 3,000 plus annually -- a 50% increase.
Among those increased cases, it is likely around 30% will be young people aged between 15 to 25 years and the number could increase even more if Australia's economy deteriorated even further.“
Producing statistics that include 2019 data is irrelevant, but what is factual is there has been no Covid related death in Australia from the 1st November 2020 to present. The number of suicides do not unfortunately match that number. As we know we can hide behind statistics and make them say whatever, so we will never know what the reasons are, but to deny it is untrue and irresponsible.
But I’ll leave it at this and in the words of the experts;
“Australia's suicide rate could increase by as much as 50% as the economic and social impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic take their toll on people's mental health, experts predicted on Thursday.
In a joint statement, a group of Australian mental health experts warned that the impact of the COVID-19 on the economy and more broadly, could cause an extra 1,500 suicides per year on top of the current 3,000 plus annually -- a 50% increase.
Among those increased cases, it is likely around 30% will be young people aged between 15 to 25 years and the number could increase even more if Australia's economy deteriorated even further.“
Btw, stats cannot make something true for false, they can be manipulated, but can't tell you white is black or black is white. The data is available and if the authorities were trying to downplay it, they would have been embarrassed by it by now.
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Nonetheless there are some strange long haul flights operating in January. Looking further afield Air India have started a non stop Bangalore San Francisco. Under normal circumstances this is probably a promising route linking two technology centers. But right now with California one of the worst places for Covid I wonder if they might not have waited a few months.
Back on topic
looks like Qantas will do more repat flights in lieu of Emirates services to the east coast cities.
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...rescue-flights
looks like Qantas will do more repat flights in lieu of Emirates services to the east coast cities.
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...rescue-flights
In 20 years with the Air Force cadets I spent my fair share of time on a number of RAAF and Army bases around Australia. The suggestion that there are ‘thousands of rooms’ on military facilities in Australia that could be easily converted to accommodation suitable for Covid quarantine is not based in reality.
What are all our infantry Regiments doing right now? What about artillery and Armour units? We have thousands of full time and thousands of reserve people available.
I read somewhere EK looking to restart East Coast in April. Can’t find the reference now.