EK suspending flights from East Coast Oz
Incorrect. Crew layover every week for IFAM.
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Trump did more for the USA in 4 years than Obama in 8 years. China and the Middle East are going walk over Biden.
Reason Trump was a business man first not a politician. He got the rust belt areas out of the doldrums knew how to create jobs.
Plus he stood up to China, manufactured more goods in the US, and had a North Korean shrimp on the barbie with rocket man.
Back to the topic good opportunity for the good old airlines that once served Australia as in KLM, Lufthansa, Alitalia, Austrian,
BA,Virgin Atlantic, LOT, shame Olympic have gone Melbourne was or is it still the 3rd biggest Greek city in the world.
Only saying this for nostalgic sake, not the economics.
Reason Trump was a business man first not a politician. He got the rust belt areas out of the doldrums knew how to create jobs.
Plus he stood up to China, manufactured more goods in the US, and had a North Korean shrimp on the barbie with rocket man.
Back to the topic good opportunity for the good old airlines that once served Australia as in KLM, Lufthansa, Alitalia, Austrian,
BA,Virgin Atlantic, LOT, shame Olympic have gone Melbourne was or is it still the 3rd biggest Greek city in the world.
Only saying this for nostalgic sake, not the economics.
This is someone’s Facebook post about their experience on a MEL layover.
I’m going to repost a chat from one of my colleagues, no wonder they’ve stopped flying there with this govt harassment.......
“Just operated SYD HBA MEL, great fun flying.
Syd not too bad and Novotel have really raised their game for food which was varied with healthy choices, delivered at requested times👍
MEL a total RGF. At least 5 agencies invloved no one talking to anyone else, they have created multiple additional touch points for crew, paperwork given to you with lecture at every turn. Normal hotac full so we thought we had lucked in with Park Royal, no chance, after 5 rounds of interrogation by various departments, taken back airside for bus transport to hotel about 5K around apron at walking pace to complete our 3hr journey to Hotac which was only 250m away! Only one person in lifts at a time. No room service in arrival as it was past midnight when escorted to rooms, told to wait in room for Covid test within next 90 min, gave up and went to sleep to be wakened at 0600L for swab test which is now done every day, you have to step out into corridor for this, not a pretty sight I assure you.
Food delivered to their schedule even when you decline.
At least NSW has some semblance of order. Lunch just been delivered at 0900 hk🤪
Got to laugh😂they sadly think they are doing a great job.”
I’m going to repost a chat from one of my colleagues, no wonder they’ve stopped flying there with this govt harassment.......
“Just operated SYD HBA MEL, great fun flying.
Syd not too bad and Novotel have really raised their game for food which was varied with healthy choices, delivered at requested times👍
MEL a total RGF. At least 5 agencies invloved no one talking to anyone else, they have created multiple additional touch points for crew, paperwork given to you with lecture at every turn. Normal hotac full so we thought we had lucked in with Park Royal, no chance, after 5 rounds of interrogation by various departments, taken back airside for bus transport to hotel about 5K around apron at walking pace to complete our 3hr journey to Hotac which was only 250m away! Only one person in lifts at a time. No room service in arrival as it was past midnight when escorted to rooms, told to wait in room for Covid test within next 90 min, gave up and went to sleep to be wakened at 0600L for swab test which is now done every day, you have to step out into corridor for this, not a pretty sight I assure you.
Food delivered to their schedule even when you decline.
At least NSW has some semblance of order. Lunch just been delivered at 0900 hk🤪
Got to laugh😂they sadly think they are doing a great job.”
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I was waiting for some of these comments..... There’s always someone like you to bring this up.
In any given year the Australian Bureau of Statistics estimates there’s around 1 million Australians living and working overseas. Australians. You know, people like you that have a legal right to live in Australia....
They don’t need a second “native country” to be over there for a few years. Likewise all those imported workers in Australia (on legitimate visas) don’t necessarily become Australians.
It’a not “because we are reasonably COVID safe” that they want to return. It’s because they have lost the jobs they’ve had. Or family members become sick. Or it’s simply time to come back. You think Australia is this awesome place that everyone looks upon with envy....
Reality is most people around the world are privately laughing at us. And in the year of COVID actually find it disgusting how we are treating our own citizens.
In any given year the Australian Bureau of Statistics estimates there’s around 1 million Australians living and working overseas. Australians. You know, people like you that have a legal right to live in Australia....
They don’t need a second “native country” to be over there for a few years. Likewise all those imported workers in Australia (on legitimate visas) don’t necessarily become Australians.
It’a not “because we are reasonably COVID safe” that they want to return. It’s because they have lost the jobs they’ve had. Or family members become sick. Or it’s simply time to come back. You think Australia is this awesome place that everyone looks upon with envy....
Reality is most people around the world are privately laughing at us. And in the year of COVID actually find it disgusting how we are treating our own citizens.
Trump did more for the USA in 4 years than Obama in 8 years. China and the Middle East are going walk over Biden.
Reason Trump was a business man first not a politician. He got the rust belt areas out of the doldrums knew how to create jobs.
Plus he stood up to China, manufactured more goods in the US, and had a North Korean shrimp on the barbie with rocket man.
Back to the topic good opportunity for the good old airlines that once served Australia as in KLM, Lufthansa, Alitalia, Austrian,
BA,Virgin Atlantic, LOT, shame Olympic have gone Melbourne was or is it still the 3rd biggest Greek city in the world.
Only saying this for nostalgic sake, not the economics.
Reason Trump was a business man first not a politician. He got the rust belt areas out of the doldrums knew how to create jobs.
Plus he stood up to China, manufactured more goods in the US, and had a North Korean shrimp on the barbie with rocket man.
Back to the topic good opportunity for the good old airlines that once served Australia as in KLM, Lufthansa, Alitalia, Austrian,
BA,Virgin Atlantic, LOT, shame Olympic have gone Melbourne was or is it still the 3rd biggest Greek city in the world.
Only saying this for nostalgic sake, not the economics.
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Is that the same UK that I'm thinking of? The one with centuries of proud history of human rights observance?
I think you’ll find many other countries would applaud us on our handling of this pandemic. Let’s not forget it’s the return travellers and International visitors who are infected and bringing this virus into the country.
By keeping it capped and the incoming numbers low, the government and authorities are better able to control and handle the situation, especially if someone slips through the cracks. Which has clearly been the case in the past, and then all hell breaks loose.
When you lose a loved one to this virus, you’ll be in a far better position to question our government's decisions.
By keeping it capped and the incoming numbers low, the government and authorities are better able to control and handle the situation, especially if someone slips through the cracks. Which has clearly been the case in the past, and then all hell breaks loose.
When you lose a loved one to this virus, you’ll be in a far better position to question our government's decisions.
Ahhh no.....
Mate I live overseas and this topic comes up every single time I go to work. The conversation DOES NOT go like this:
”wow Australia is doing such a great job keeping the cases low, you must understand why you’re locked out of your own country”
Its more like:
”How can Australia get away with treating its citizens that way? In my country the government isn’t allowed to get away with it”
The overriding part of the conversation is about the trampling of basic human rights. There is no balance in Australia. It’s just “because of the virus” and that justifies any new bureaucratic rule, no matter the affect on people’s lives.
They also find it hard to understand why Australians don’t care for their own citizens that happen to be on the wrong side of the border.
Believe me, they’re laughing.
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NZ has a booking system for your place in quarantine. It’s up to the traveller to ensure they have a booking first, then they can get on ANY flight available to get them to NZ.
This is a massive difference to the AUS system where the government “palms off” the decisions to the airlines. Also means if your specific airline makes a schedule change, you can’t just rebook a new flight with another airline that’ll probably still arrive on the same day.
So that justifies screwing over your own citizens?? As others have mentioned arrivals pay for the flights, they pay for the quarantine. And then after all this they still get blamed for...
“not coming home in March”
Citizens first, that’s the entire point of government. To serve the people that put them in power. That includes Australians stuck on the “wrong” side of the international border. Citizenship doesn’t end when you step off Australian soil
This is a massive difference to the AUS system where the government “palms off” the decisions to the airlines. Also means if your specific airline makes a schedule change, you can’t just rebook a new flight with another airline that’ll probably still arrive on the same day.
So that justifies screwing over your own citizens?? As others have mentioned arrivals pay for the flights, they pay for the quarantine. And then after all this they still get blamed for...
“not coming home in March”
Citizens first, that’s the entire point of government. To serve the people that put them in power. That includes Australians stuck on the “wrong” side of the international border. Citizenship doesn’t end when you step off Australian soil
BTW, I didn't know that Australia did not have a system for pre-booking quarantine.
Returning Kiwi's can get the quarantine for free as long as they are intending to stay, and haven't just left for a holiday; that said, my neighbour works for an Australian professional cycling team. He had to travel to Spain and Italy, as he was working on both tours. Even though that is his income for the year, he still had to pay $3000 for the privilege of going to work.
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Trump did more for the USA in 4 years than Obama in 8 years. China and the Middle East are going walk over Biden.
Reason Trump was a business man first not a politician. He got the rust belt areas out of the doldrums knew how to create jobs.
Plus he stood up to China, manufactured more goods in the US, and had a North Korean shrimp on the barbie with rocket man.
Back to the topic good opportunity for the good old airlines that once served Australia as in KLM, Lufthansa, Alitalia, Austrian,
BA,Virgin Atlantic, LOT, shame Olympic have gone Melbourne was or is it still the 3rd biggest Greek city in the world.
Only saying this for nostalgic sake, not the economics.
Reason Trump was a business man first not a politician. He got the rust belt areas out of the doldrums knew how to create jobs.
Plus he stood up to China, manufactured more goods in the US, and had a North Korean shrimp on the barbie with rocket man.
Back to the topic good opportunity for the good old airlines that once served Australia as in KLM, Lufthansa, Alitalia, Austrian,
BA,Virgin Atlantic, LOT, shame Olympic have gone Melbourne was or is it still the 3rd biggest Greek city in the world.
Only saying this for nostalgic sake, not the economics.
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I think you’ll find many other countries would applaud us on our handling of this pandemic. Let’s not forget it’s the return travellers and International visitors who are infected and bringing this virus into the country.
By keeping it capped and the incoming numbers low, the government and authorities are better able to control and handle the situation, especially if someone slips through the cracks. Which has clearly been the case in the past, and then all hell breaks loose.
When you lose a loved one to this virus, you’ll be in a far better position to question our government's decisions.
By keeping it capped and the incoming numbers low, the government and authorities are better able to control and handle the situation, especially if someone slips through the cracks. Which has clearly been the case in the past, and then all hell breaks loose.
When you lose a loved one to this virus, you’ll be in a far better position to question our government's decisions.
Don't be fooled by this government, they are just bumbling through this like an 18yr old at a brothel.
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I question the government’s decision when we have a greater number of young, middle aged citizens and loved ones taking their own lives due to the current virus lockdowns and hardships created by the government than are actually currently passing from the virus itself.
Don't be fooled by this government, they are just bumbling through this like an 18yr old at a brothel.
Don't be fooled by this government, they are just bumbling through this like an 18yr old at a brothel.
I know it is stressful times but statements like this are untrue and irresponsible.
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Producing statistics that include 2019 data is irrelevant, but what is factual is there has been no Covid related death in Australia from the 1st November 2020 to present. The number of suicides do not unfortunately match that number. As we know we can hide behind statistics and make them say whatever, so we will never know what the reasons are, but to deny it is untrue and irresponsible.
But I’ll leave it at this and in the words of the experts;
“Australia's suicide rate could increase by as much as 50% as the economic and social impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic take their toll on people's mental health, experts predicted on Thursday.
In a joint statement, a group of Australian mental health experts warned that the impact of the COVID-19 on the economy and more broadly, could cause an extra 1,500 suicides per year on top of the current 3,000 plus annually -- a 50% increase.
Among those increased cases, it is likely around 30% will be young people aged between 15 to 25 years and the number could increase even more if Australia's economy deteriorated even further.“
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Is it really a big deal if EK have pulled out? Loads have been poor on all airlines so surely it just means QR will be filling more than 40 seats on the plane which might mean its not just J pax on the a/c so less people being bumped. I'm not sure why Aus doesn't introduce a quarantine voucher system like NZ... that way no one would be bumped.
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"Why have a National Airline with the capability and not use it?"