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Old 12th Dec 2020, 11:03
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What is the future for the Jetstar B787 fleet

Any news of the plans for the Jetstar B787 fleet. When do the A321NEOLR's start to arrive ?
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Old 12th Dec 2020, 16:55
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There is talk of using them on domestic routes and maybe trans-con if those plans go ahead in March to get crews current. I donít think the 78 is dead yet. If by the off chance international opens up towards the end of 2021 they will be very much needed.
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Old 12th Dec 2020, 19:00
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There appears to be a plan for at least some of the 787 to go to Alice Springs.
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Old 12th Dec 2020, 22:53
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If there were a market for them, they'd have been sold already. As iit is, there is virtually no market for brand-new 788s let alone earlier builds so it is likely they will remain the the QF fleet though will probably spend a year or so in the desert before any attempt to reactivate them. I doubt they will fly for JQ again but think they may find a place in the mainline fleet as replacements for the oldest A332s on domestic routes. I doubt if QF will use them on international routes which means a recliner J class product remains acceptable making the transition to mainline even easier.
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Old 12th Dec 2020, 23:09
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3 up for sale previously however the chances of getting the price they wanted now is zero.

Bali will be a boom market once the world reopens and that will require considerable capacity to get it moving for a while.
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Old 12th Dec 2020, 23:28
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2021 & 2022 will surely be the years of LCCs. Can see Jetstar doing more long haul (no QF A380s & no VA A330s/B777s)
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JQ will hold on to the 78 they will need them more than ever when Bali and other leisure destinations open late 2021-2022. As said on Friday theyíre looking to use them domestically I get crew current as March is fast approaching and the cost to get crews going again will be far more expensive.
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Bali residents could be among the first to receive the Chinese drug, in order to make the island "a green zone at the start of next year", according to China's state-owned Xinhua news agency.
'Nothing comes for free': China rolls out trial vaccines to developing world.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...omacy/12958762



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New rumour.... they are going to Network.

You heard it here first
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Bali the perfect spot for the Chinese to set up their military personnel for when the attack comes.
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Old 18th Dec 2020, 02:47
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Ragnor. I agree. China does not need our coal but needs our iron ore to make aircraft carriers and submarines. The Chinese navy (PLAN) currently has 67 more ships than the US. The number of ships under construction is greater than the size of the RAN.
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Old 18th Dec 2020, 03:03
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With Jetstar planning to operate more flights in March next year then they did in March 2019, there could be a case for keeping a few B787s in the domestic network to relieve pressure on the A320 fleet and maintain crew currency. However, the recent spike in COVID cases in North Sydney could lead to another lockdown as the state governments will have an eye on the situation in Europe and want to avoid another series of outbreaks.

It all depends on the vaccine, Australia doesn't have the provision for emergency approval so it will be next month before the roll out and another few months before sufficient numbers of people have received their dose before the borders can safely be opened.
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The current vaccines are effective at stopping COVID (the disease). I haven't seen anything that suggests they will stop transmission (the virus).

So how are the borders going to be safely opened any time next year ? Case numbers will still be there, just less deaths eventually.

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Radio check on 121.5???


Nothing heard.


Shamefull.


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So how are the borders going to be safely opened any time next year ? Case numbers will still be there, just less deaths eventually.
Once enough of the population is vaccinated, it won't matter if a COVID case arrives as he won't be passing it on. Likewise, if an Australian goes overseas he shouldn't get sick. There will be a divide between rich countries which get the vaccine early and can return to relative normality, and poorer countries which may wait for years for a sizeable percentage of the population to be protected.

The expected travel bubbles haven't really worked, so a vaccine is the best hope.
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The current vaccines are effective at stopping COVID (the disease). I haven't seen anything that suggests they will stop transmission (the virus).

So how are the borders going to be safely opened any time next year ? Case numbers will still be there, just less deaths eventually.
In Australia at least, I find it highly doubtful the border will open in 2021. Even with a large number of people vaccinated, the political reality in Australia canít even accept a small outbreak (less than 30). Just look at the drama of SA recently and the current NSW one.

Until it is definitively proven that the virus canít be brought in to Australia, expect the government to drag its heels as long as possible.
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With Jetstar planning to operate more flights in March next year then they did in March 2019, there could be a case for keeping a few B787s in the domestic network to relieve pressure on the A320 fleet and maintain crew currency. .
Given most of the cabin crew are overseas based I wonder if it is financially viable to run the 787s? You would need to train the cabin crew etc and would likely cause industrial issues down the track when you try and pull the endorsement off them.
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Perhaps 03/21 will mark the end of the false hope being pedaled by those still being paid.

At the very least, communicate with the crews in an open and honest manner.

Innuendo simply doesnt cut it this late into the game.

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Your all being stringed along. Pipe Dream. Forget it.
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In Australia at least, I find it highly doubtful the border will open in 2021. Even with a large number of people vaccinated, the political reality in Australia canít even accept a small outbreak (less than 30). Just look at the drama of SA recently and the current NSW one.

Until it is definitively proven that the virus canít be brought in to Australia, expect the government to drag its heels as long as possible.
The outbreak in Sydney shows the fragility of the system. Even the Trans Tasman bubble is placed at risk of starting with community transmission. The problem is a small outbreak, if badly managed, can become an out of control outbreak in very little time.

Here in NZ the policy is unlikely to change, as we do not have the ICU capacity to manage a big outbreak.
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