What is the future for the Jetstar B787 fleet

[Chris2303]

Originally Posted by getaway

Air NZ has long flights AKL/USA mainland & YVR I think, going via HNL with separate crew to fly eg. HNL/LAX/HNL. Painful for pax having to get off at HNL, collect bags & get back on board. Maybe Americans might make exception or HNL/LAX would be a domestic flight & no 2nd customs at LAX etc.

Simple Flying says pax have to stay on board so some deal must have been made with US CBP

https://simpleflying.com/air-new-zea...waii-stopover/

[Ragnor]

Originally Posted by getaway

property is well & truly stuffed after overly generous welfare ends. Might take a few months. ANZ bank says June/July. Media will overhype it as usual & concentrate on all the mortgagee in possession auctions with no reserves.

Anyone who pays top dollar for any real estate now is crazy. Jetstar doesn't have a good name but either does Qantas.

Economist and the Bank have got everything wrong relating to this pandemic from the start, if borders are open ppl will go on a holiday, there is over 2b in additional house hold savings at the moment according to Joshy.

JQ and QF might have a bad name as you say but VA rex and all are no better they all cancel flights they are all delayed ppl complain it’s human nature.

[getaway]

Originally Posted by Chris2303

Simple Flying says pax have to stay on board so some deal must have been made with US CBP

https://simpleflying.com/air-new-zea...waii-stopover/

that's great news. Hope it's ongoing FOREVER. Used to fly SYD/BNE/HNL/YVR a lot pre SEP11 & in those days, we were allowed off aircraft in HNL to sit for 90 mins in transit lounge, while refuel, but didn't have to enter USA & go thru all that BS.

I can see other airlines like QF, UA, DL, AA doing Australia/mainland USA instead of nonstop via HNL with same aircraft, at least initially, although gues that would mean HNL/LAX wouldn't be a domestic flight & all pax would have to go thru customs/immigration at LAX, SFO etc.

If HNL stop means staying on board, then maybe Jetstar could do same as NZ, just instead of from AKL from OZ ports. ie. BNE, SYD, MEL/HNL/LAX with change of crew at HNL & that crew flying HNL/LAX/HNL, esp from BNE with QF now only BNE/USA mainalnd nonstop with no VA.

[Anti Skid On]

Originally Posted by Wingspar

I think come the second half of 2021, the JQ 787’s will be working their proverbial off. They’re even forecasting being ahead of their precovid domestic levels by March. Just imagine when International opens up?

Mate you're dreaming. There will be many more years before borders open. The virus continues to mutate and everyone will need an annual Covid vaccination for the latest strain. Looks at Brazil and South Africa, new, out of control versions.

[ANstar]

Originally Posted by Transition Layer

I’m not convinced LCC will be the saviour out of COVID. For the vast majority of the Australian public, this has been merely a blip on the radar of their earnings and savings. With their bank accounts overflowing and property prices holding up,I think they’ll be less inclined to travel on LCCs, at least in the short term. They’ve all had a bad experience with a last minute cancelled JQ flight and the lack of ground support that goes with it.

Obviously if a recession kicks in, all bets are off, but initially I think full cost will be popular for the leisure market, especially if uncertainty about borders still exists and the possibility of cancellations abounds.

You're assuming Qantas and Virgin haven't dont the same.,.. which they have. Jetstar are pretty quick to refund.. in my experience its been within a week. QF seem to take months and Virgin have refused refunds for cancelled flights.

[getaway]

Originally Posted by Anti Skid On

Mate you're dreaming. There will be many more years before borders open. The virus continues to mutate and everyone will need an annual Covid vaccination for the latest strain. Looks at Brazil and South Africa, new, out of control versions.

kiwis already get in without restriction, test or quarantine. Australians will be able to go to NZ as soon as public servants get off their butts. Currently other international borders open 18 March 2021, but that could change.

[ScepticalOptomist]

Originally Posted by Anti Skid On

Mate you're dreaming. There will be many more years before borders open. The virus continues to mutate and everyone will need an annual Covid vaccination for the latest strain. Looks at Brazil and South Africa, new, out of control versions.

What nonsense. The “mutations” are relatively minor protein changes - the current crop of vaccines aren’t affected. For the love of goodness read past the headlines.