RAAF F18 ejection QLD
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Originally Posted by Heatseeker
Heard a tale once of a commercial flight just about to cross the fence and touch down. The Capt looked across to the FO and by the sad look on the FO's face reckoned the FO was having a very bad day. Thinking to make the FO happier the Capt said "cheer up" at which point the FO reached forward and retracted the undercarriage ! Of course I don't believe a word of it :-)
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Originally Posted by Heatseeker View Post
Heard a tale once of a commercial flight just about to cross the fence and touch down. The Capt looked across to the FO and by the sad look on the FO's face reckoned the FO was having a very bad day. Thinking to make the FO happier the Capt said "cheer up" at which point the FO reached forward and retracted the undercarriage ! Of course I don't believe a word of it :-)
Heard a tale once of a commercial flight just about to cross the fence and touch down. The Capt looked across to the FO and by the sad look on the FO's face reckoned the FO was having a very bad day. Thinking to make the FO happier the Capt said "cheer up" at which point the FO reached forward and retracted the undercarriage ! Of course I don't believe a word of it :-)
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Originally Posted by jumby164
Word on the RAAF Grapvine is that the aircraft suffered a total nosewheel steering failure at takeoff speeds.
During a IF Takeoff in a PC-A in Pearce my student under the bag in the front seat engaged the nosewheel steering at about 58 kts trying to be smart in correcting back to the headings I was calling out. The aircraft rapidly pivoted 30deg left!.... I took control jumped on the brakes and and left two large black tire marks across 1/4 of the runway width as we departed the runway to the left, taking out an edge light on the way. I jumped a ditch and came to stop on the grass and then safed the ejection seats before shutting down. The PC9 seat was a 60/200 bang seat not a 0/0 rocket seat, if we were sitting on rockets seats would probably have pulled the handle for the both of us.
When we went back and walked over the tracks, could clearly see the big black tire marks across the runway and the dirt tracks in the grass, we skidded sideways between two concrete blocks before jumping the ditch (aprox 35kts with full backstick) and stopping.
Looking at the satellite view of 36R at YPEA and the gap between the concrete blocks of the arrestor cable system still makes me shiver.
Last edited by speed2height; 11th Dec 2020 at 06:52.
Originally Posted by speed2height
The PC9 seat was a 60/200 bang seat not a 0/0 rocket seat, if we were sitting on rockets seats would probably have pulled the handle for the both of us.
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Originally Posted by Slezy9
Hmmm, few minor errors there. The PC9 had a 0/60 seat. Ground level, no downward vector and wings level. Minimum 60 knots. You could have pulled the handle but you’d have left the student behind. The command ejection system in the PC9 only worked from the back seat and as a QFI on an IF takeoff you would have been in the front seat.
60kts was the min speed (I guess I said 200ft because that was my cutoff height to arrest a rate of descent before ejection with an engine out) and yep I was in the front seat. Isn't that strange, I guess I spent so much time in the rear seat teaching I just assumed that's where I was sitting.[edit] I just remembered where I got the 200ft from, it was a presentation on the MK11 seat Martin Baker gave at Pearce, it was a 0/60 seat but inverted it was a 200/60 seat
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Slezy9 - Speed2height may have got the exact deets slightly wrong - but the event itself was true to form. I was his flight commander. S2H was a rotor head in a past life so these event were not unexpected.
Originally Posted by speed2height
...my student under the bag in the front seat engaged the nosewheel steering at about 58 kts trying to be smart in correcting back to the headings I was calling out...
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Originally Posted by gulliBell
Did he pass the course and get his wings, or did he wash out?
If I remember correctly (which is now debatable) he was a prior CPL holder that did well through GFPT and struggled on IF and washed out.
I understand the F18 requires its nosewheel steering rate set to low after taxing and failing to do so was the cause of a runway excursion across the arrestor blocks many years ago in Williamtown
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
If they're quick, they can slip it into an Antonov and flog it to the Canucks.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/f18...alia-1.5836504
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Originally Posted by cossack
We've only got 3 of the first batch of 7 "integrated". Deliveries of the remaining 14 to come. New canopy, seats and clean up the soot and she'll be right.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/f18...alia-1.5836504
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/f18...alia-1.5836504
I wanted to throw a blanket over her!
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Originally Posted by speed2height
If I remember correctly (which is now debatable) he was a prior CPL holder that did well through GFPT and struggled on IF and washed out.
I understand the F18 requires its nosewheel steering rate set to low after taxing and failing to do so was the cause of a runway excursion across the arrestor blocks many years ago in Williamtown
If I remember correctly (which is now debatable) he was a prior CPL holder that did well through GFPT and struggled on IF and washed out.
I understand the F18 requires its nosewheel steering rate set to low after taxing and failing to do so was the cause of a runway excursion across the arrestor blocks many years ago in Williamtown
I’d also like to know what caused the decision to eject. I’m sure that it was a sound judgment but was there a change in procedures following the Growler engine fire in Las Vegas.
Would also like to know if the jet has been repaired.
Would also like to know if the jet has been repaired.
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Redacted report from Defence
Obtained by Senator Rex Patrick; reported on ABC web site
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-...ject/101131502
Primary cause was ”substandard adherence to checklist actions”
Thought the report on following sequence of events may be of interest.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-...ject/101131502
Primary cause was ”substandard adherence to checklist actions”
Thought the report on following sequence of events may be of interest.
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"Upon noticing the heading deviation, it is likely the pilot suffered an acute stress response followed by a short duration of impaired cognitive performance," the report states.
Is the Hornet so incapable of flying with the trim out-of-position that he was more worried about dealing with it, rather than simply taking the jet airborne and retrimming it in the air? OR is there more to it than just being out of trim?
