Changes at RAAF Point Cook
I stand by what I said because you RAAF types seem to despise the people who pay for you:
Its the despised “civvies” that paid for the original base, its upkeep and the “toys we’d all give our left nuts to fly”. Furthermore, if you are RAAF, the “civvies” paid for your training, food and clothing down to your shoes and socks.
I’d rather see Point Cook turned into a housing estate before giving it back to the RAAF, if the RAAF is full of cynical narcissistic creeps like you.
Point Cook was a natural spot to house:
1. A purpose built Australian air museum.
2. An industry cluster of aviation related businesses specialising in the restoration and maintenance of vintage aircraft of all. types, civil and military as well as the manufacture of replicas.
3. A training hub for both pilots and engineers.
‘’As for a fully fledged RAAF base, there goes another chunk of airspace locked up for the benefit of a bunch of overgrown schoolboys.
I’d rather see Point Cook turned into a housing estate before giving it back to the RAAF, if the RAAF is full of cynical narcissistic creeps like you.
Point Cook was a natural spot to house:
1. A purpose built Australian air museum.
2. An industry cluster of aviation related businesses specialising in the restoration and maintenance of vintage aircraft of all. types, civil and military as well as the manufacture of replicas.
3. A training hub for both pilots and engineers.
‘’As for a fully fledged RAAF base, there goes another chunk of airspace locked up for the benefit of a bunch of overgrown schoolboys.
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In a year when the RAAF and wider ADF has been stretched to capacity with civil assistance I find your comments highly offensive and generalised.
Many hours were devoted to bushfire support at the beginning of the year, with leave cancelled for a lot of members in order to recall them (and absolutely no grumbling, people were scrambling to help.) Right now there are personnel (technicians, pilots, logistics officers - people from all ranks and musterings) assigned to covid tasking at hotels all throughout Australia as an ongoing task,with leave again cancelled for a lot of members over Christmas. Furthermore additional personnel placed on standby for bushfire assistance again this year.
Despise the people who pay for us? Most people join because they want to serve the community.
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Sunfish, do you think that the members of the military do not pay tax?
We all paid our dues, and did our jobs. It wasn't always killing people, it was usually rescuing people who have done stupid things - though I would have been happy to have left some of them to their fate.
Cap'n Rex, those were my thoughts exactly, a scrubbed failed bitter and twisted non-pilot wannabee.
We all paid our dues, and did our jobs. It wasn't always killing people, it was usually rescuing people who have done stupid things - though I would have been happy to have left some of them to their fate.
Cap'n Rex, those were my thoughts exactly, a scrubbed failed bitter and twisted non-pilot wannabee.
Malakor: You just make it worse for yourself don't you? Your sense of entitlement is a mile wide. A National emergency and somehow this is a major sacrifice above and beyond, etc.....?
Perish the thought that the Chinese might attack over Christmas......
But seriously, there were many others who cancelled their leave voluntarily, tens of thousands of them. They were the despised civvies your mate Bodie sneered at. Then there were the police, ambos and professional fire fighters as well. They got no Christmas leave either. What makes you so special? It was a national emergency after all and you claim some special kudos for doing what you were paid to do out of hours? Aren't you supposed to be available 24/7?
I guess I am being a bit harsh. The RAAF gave me a lift home from Coffs Harbor in a C17 a week or two before Christmas. The webbing seats brought back memories. I didn't get to celebrate the New Year either. Yet I'm not complaining.
However its Wednesday afternoon, aren't you supposed to be playing cricket?
What a disgracefully childish statement, you should be embarrassed.
In a year when the RAAF and wider ADF has been stretched to capacity with civil assistance I find your comments highly offensive and generalised.
Many hours were devoted to bushfire support at the beginning of the year, with leave cancelled for a lot of members in order to recall them (and absolutely no grumbling, people were scrambling to help.) Right now there are personnel (technicians, pilots, logistics officers - people from all ranks and musterings) assigned to covid tasking at hotels all throughout Australia as an ongoing task,with leave again cancelled for a lot of members over Christmas. Furthermore additional personnel placed on standby for bushfire assistance again this year.
Despise the people who pay for us? Most people join because they want to serve the community.
In a year when the RAAF and wider ADF has been stretched to capacity with civil assistance I find your comments highly offensive and generalised.
Many hours were devoted to bushfire support at the beginning of the year, with leave cancelled for a lot of members in order to recall them (and absolutely no grumbling, people were scrambling to help.) Right now there are personnel (technicians, pilots, logistics officers - people from all ranks and musterings) assigned to covid tasking at hotels all throughout Australia as an ongoing task,with leave again cancelled for a lot of members over Christmas. Furthermore additional personnel placed on standby for bushfire assistance again this year.
Despise the people who pay for us? Most people join because they want to serve the community.
But seriously, there were many others who cancelled their leave voluntarily, tens of thousands of them. They were the despised civvies your mate Bodie sneered at. Then there were the police, ambos and professional fire fighters as well. They got no Christmas leave either. What makes you so special? It was a national emergency after all and you claim some special kudos for doing what you were paid to do out of hours? Aren't you supposed to be available 24/7?
I guess I am being a bit harsh. The RAAF gave me a lift home from Coffs Harbor in a C17 a week or two before Christmas. The webbing seats brought back memories. I didn't get to celebrate the New Year either. Yet I'm not complaining.
However its Wednesday afternoon, aren't you supposed to be playing cricket?
Yes Bodie, I'm bitter when I see all the work and treasure spent on trying to preserve places like Point Cook and our history, only to have people like you **** in their faces.
I am now out of this. Attitudes like yours disgust me.
I am now out of this. Attitudes like yours disgust me.
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Malakor: You just make it worse for yourself don't you? Your sense of entitlement is a mile wide. A National emergency and somehow this is a major sacrifice above and beyond, etc.....?
Perish the thought that the Chinese might attack over Christmas......
But seriously, there were many others who cancelled their leave voluntarily, tens of thousands of them. They were the despised civvies your mate Bodie sneered at. Then there were the police, ambos and professional fire fighters as well. They got no Christmas leave either. What makes you so special? It was a national emergency after all and you claim some special kudos for doing what you were paid to do out of hours? Aren't you supposed to be available 24/7?
I guess I am being a bit harsh. The RAAF gave me a lift home from Coffs Harbor in a C17 a week or two before Christmas. The webbing seats brought back memories. I didn't get to celebrate the New Year either. Yet I'm not complaining.
However its Wednesday afternoon, aren't you supposed to be playing cricket?
Perish the thought that the Chinese might attack over Christmas......
But seriously, there were many others who cancelled their leave voluntarily, tens of thousands of them. They were the despised civvies your mate Bodie sneered at. Then there were the police, ambos and professional fire fighters as well. They got no Christmas leave either. What makes you so special? It was a national emergency after all and you claim some special kudos for doing what you were paid to do out of hours? Aren't you supposed to be available 24/7?
I guess I am being a bit harsh. The RAAF gave me a lift home from Coffs Harbor in a C17 a week or two before Christmas. The webbing seats brought back memories. I didn't get to celebrate the New Year either. Yet I'm not complaining.
However its Wednesday afternoon, aren't you supposed to be playing cricket?
You mentioned a while ago you were tired of the diatribe and attacks on yourself so you left the forum.. Then you came back. Maybe it's time to go again, permanently? Vile outbursts serve nothing, this is just embarrassing, and all can see it except yourself.
Cricket is on Friday afternoons, Wednesday is croquet.
Mods, maybe time to close this thread down? It's getting weird..
You have made that promise before Sunfish. Let’s hope your New Years resolution is to stay away for good and let’s hope the Mods might be able to help you with that.
I'm willing to bet Sunfish got scrubbed from the RAAF.
The webbing seats brought back memories.
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They were the despised civvies your mate Bodie sneered at.
"He/She That Has The Gold Makes All The Rules"
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Yes Bodie, I'm bitter when I see all the work and treasure spent on trying to preserve places like Point Cook and our history, only to have people like you **** in their faces.
I am now out of this. Attitudes like yours disgust me.
Ol’ whispering Jack Sunfish. Is this the final final goodbye?
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We saw with the SAS problem what can happen when a group forgets that they are members of the general community that makes up Australia that pays their bills and determine what is civilized and correct conduct.