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Old 30th Nov 2020, 11:02
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Bit of a thread drift but are the actually flying the "bare" aircraft in for completion
Yes, and the FAA TCDS gives approval for the aircraft to fly the Atlantic in a "green" condition.
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Old 30th Nov 2020, 19:20
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Yes, and the FAA TCDS gives approval for the aircraft to fly the Atlantic in a "green" condition.
Interesting - between the PC12 and PC24 that's a flight every 2-3 working day. Quite an operation...
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Old 30th Nov 2020, 21:18
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It was headed to Australia? Any idea who owned it?
What sort of route would it have been taking to get to Oz from California?!
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Santa Barbara, California -> Hilo, Hawaii 2067nm

Hilo -> Apia, Samoa - 2241nm

Apia -> Sydney, Australia - 2335nm

If the range is a problem then due to the Jetstreams, (although by now they should be well south of Australia )

Hilo -> Cassidy PLCH - 1068nm

Cassidy -> Nadi, Fiji - 1902nm

Nadi -> Sydney - 1712nm

There used to be a really good routing website, but I can’t find it anymore.
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That’s the one 👍
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Is it normal to cross that amount of open water with a single engine?
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No, ferry flights more often than not stretch the parameters. I wouldn’t be comfortable with it but plenty are
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Is it normal to cross that amount of open water with a single engine
When GA was thriving single engine pistons were ferried all over the world, USA across the Pacific to Australia being just one route. Many a pilot made their living ferrying aircraft from factory to country of purchase, good book on the business is "Ocean Flying" by Louise Sacchi, she flew the Pacific and Atlantic over 340 times flying mainly Bonanzas and Barons.
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Not a photo you want in your scrapbook.


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Why not, reminder of one of lifes adventures having a great outcome.
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The photo proves what a great outcome came from it AND how buoyant the aircraft is!
Seriously how many water landings are there with the aircraft still in perfect tact??!!
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Old 9th Dec 2020, 09:26
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Originally Posted by Roj approved
Santa Barbara, California -> Hilo, Hawaii 2067nm

Hilo -> Apia, Samoa - 2241nm

Apia -> Sydney, Australia - 2335nm

If the range is a problem then due to the Jetstreams, (although by now they should be well south of Australia )

Hilo -> Cassidy PLCH - 1068nm

Cassidy -> Nadi, Fiji - 1902nm

Nadi -> Sydney - 1712nm

There used to be a really good routing website, but I can’t find it anymore.

My two ferries one in 1983 in my B-25:
Stockton, Ca to HNL
HNL to Majuro, Marshall Is [over fly Johnson Is as emergency strip]
MJO to HIA [overfly Nauru as emergency strip]
HIA to BNE

In my A-26:

Santa Rosa, Ca to Hilo
Hilo to Pago Pago
Pago to NLK [due cyclone]
NLK to BNE

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Old 9th Dec 2020, 10:10
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A great outcome! The pilots survived.

However, a brand new aircraft enroute to it’s new owners has ended up in the drink!
That is not a good outcome!

Ferry 101. What went wrong? With the aircraft at the bottom of the deep, we may never know!
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Old 10th Dec 2020, 03:07
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The engine did not restart and grinding sounds and a loud bang were heard
Whatever went wrong it sure doesn't sound good.
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