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Old 25th Aug 2020, 10:22
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Qantaslink Regional Fleet Changes

As per John Gossing's e-mail this afternoon, Qantas have decided to close National Jet's B717 Perth base, relocating aircraft and staff to the East Coast, with a new base established in Melbourne. The void will be filled in WA by QF 737's and Network A320's, with 5 additional on order.

Will be interesting to see how much work NJS gets off mainline on the east coast? A lot of B717's based there now. Assume they will be up a lot of Q400 work in Melbourne now that those aircraft are being moved on.
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Old 25th Aug 2020, 21:10
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Originally Posted by aseriesofleftturns View Post
As per John Gossing's e-mail this afternoon, Qantas have decided to close National Jet's B717 Perth base, relocating aircraft and staff to the East Coast, with a new base established in Melbourne. The void will be filled in WA by QF 737's and Network A320's, with 5 additional on order.

Will be interesting to see how much work NJS gets off mainline on the east coast? A lot of B717's based there now. Assume they will be up a lot of Q400 work in Melbourne now that those aircraft are being moved on.
Thoughts on redundancies?

Hard to see how a PER and CNS base can combine into 1 and relocate to Melbourne with an already largely established Melbourne base with 737’s and Q400’s.
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Old 25th Aug 2020, 21:20
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Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 View Post
Thoughts on redundancies?

Hard to see how a PER and CNS base can combine into 1 and relocate to Melbourne with an already largely established Melbourne base with 737’s and Q400’s.
The fleet won’t change, just the location therefore no need for redundancies.
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Old 25th Aug 2020, 21:30
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Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 View Post
Thoughts on redundancies?

Hard to see how a PER and CNS base can combine into 1 and relocate to Melbourne with an already largely established Melbourne base with 737’s and Q400’s.
You must have missed the news.

Q400's gone from Vic, replaced with Q300's.

The 717's will be needed for Tas, ACT, SA, etc.

Any surplus will be managed just as they do now, stand down.
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Old 25th Aug 2020, 22:45
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Originally Posted by Going Nowhere View Post
You must have missed the news.

Q400's gone from Vic, replaced with Q300's.

The 717's will be needed for Tas, ACT, SA, etc.

Any surplus will be managed just as they do now, stand down.
Looks like I did. Would be good if the company extended the communication to all group staff.

Fingers crossed then. After a day of doom and gloom let’s hope this move is nothing more than a reshuffle
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Old 25th Aug 2020, 22:45
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25 years after the QLink base (then QF Airlink) opened, the Rat finally buys out Cobham QLink operation and then summarily closes the base, talk about pleasure and pain
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 00:48
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Great time to move to Melb. (NOT!!) Who pays for the move? Base closure, should be the Company?
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 01:37
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Claim it as a Tax a deduction. Will be great next year to put the claim in after sitting on JobKeeper. Think about all that tax you will get back!
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 04:52
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In many ways having the F100s and the 717s in PER didnt make much sense, each can easily perform the others role. Makes sense for Network to consolidate at PER with F100s and A320s
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Lots of long term people in Perth.

Not a lot of opportunity if you’re not prepared to move with JQ and QF already fighting for A320/F100 slots.


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Old 26th Aug 2020, 07:37
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Word on the street is that the Qlink Mildura base is to be closed, along with the Melbourne Q400 base and everything consolidated in Sydney and Brisbane.
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What is happening to Cobham B717 head office staff and managers? They were all based out of Adelaide but no actual B717’s were based there.
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 08:19
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Originally Posted by Stationair8 View Post
Word on the street is that the Qlink Mildura base is to be closed, along with the Melbourne Q400 base and everything consolidated in Sydney and Brisbane.
Whilst the Q400 is to be moved out of ML, is it going to be a straight ‘swap’ to the Q300, or is it a reduction in airframes as well?

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Claim it as a Tax a deduction. Will be great next year to put the claim in after sitting on JobKeeper. Think about all that tax you will get back!]
If it is even allowable, spend a dollar and get fifty cents back.

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In many ways having the F100s and the 717s in PER didnt make much sense, each can easily perform the others role.
I mostly agree except that the F100 carries 100 passengers and the B717 carries 125 passengers, so gives flexibility without moving to A320/B737 size.
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 View Post

I mostly agree except that the F100 carries 100 passengers and the B717 carries 125 passengers, so gives flexibility without moving to A320/B737 size.
Very true. Depending on how long they intend to keep the fleet, they could easily reconfigure them with 110 seats (Although i think 4 FAs would be required then?). The 717s went through the same densification themselves. Currently the F100s have the best economy seating pitch and toilet ratio of any Q group aircraft....considering the A320s retain the very tight JQ layout
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Look at the whole picture...
WA is now all Network with F100 and 320 - all to be painted white with a red tail.
Melbourne thick Q400 routes (LST and CBR) now upsizing to 717, again - a white plane with a red tail.
Melbourne thin Q400 routes (DPO and MQL) down sizing to Q300.
Right aircraft right route, pax still get on a white plane with a red tail, and all done with the cheap AOCs.
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 10:20
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Originally Posted by roger_ramjet View Post
Look at the whole picture...
WA is now all Network with F100 and 320 - all to be painted white with a red tail.
Melbourne thick Q400 routes (LST and CBR) now upsizing to 717, again - a white plane with a red tail.
Melbourne thin Q400 routes (DPO and MQL) down sizing to Q300.
Right aircraft right route, pax still get on a white plane with a red tail, and all done with the cheap AOCs.
East coast passengers will be in for a shock when they get inside,no wifi on the jet servics & antiquated 300's on the dash routes.
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 10:24
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Originally Posted by hawk_eye View Post
Whilst the Q400 is to be moved out of ML, is it going to be a straight ‘swap’ to the Q300, or is it a reduction in airframes as well?
Change in establishment numbers as per what just happened up North.

I suggest everyone reads the EBA, in particular the Seniority clause.

There'll be a few rude shocks in store if you don't know your EBA.
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 10:25
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Originally Posted by Stationair8 View Post
Word on the street is that the Qlink Mildura base is to be closed, along with the Melbourne Q400 base and everything consolidated in Sydney and Brisbane.
Totally incorrect. The bases stay with the fleet moving to Q300.

Once the vacancy notice is issued, you'll know the establishment numbers at each base.

Don't assume everything will stay as it is numbers wise.
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Originally Posted by roger_ramjet View Post
Look at the whole picture...
WA is now all Network with F100 and 320 - all to be painted white with a red tail.
Melbourne thick Q400 routes (LST and CBR) now upsizing to 717, again - a white plane with a red tail.
Melbourne thin Q400 routes (DPO and MQL) down sizing to Q300.
Right aircraft right route, pax still get on a white plane with a red tail, and all done with the cheap AOCs.
Eroding pay and conditions through fragmentation of AOC’s has been Qantas’ plan for years, it gives the public the illusion of Qantas without the cost base.
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