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ABC: Pilot Shortage ‘flipped around’

Old 9th Aug 2020, 22:48
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I’m in a similar boat to Plot. I was well experienced in my trade before getting into Aviaton, and have the ability to go back to the trades if required, and I have done in the past when Aviation has thrown up the short term difficulty’s that it seems to. But I have to be quite humble about it, I end up working for people that used to work for me, not that that’s an issue but does make it easy to find work,I take a respectable wage that reflects that I’ve not done anything trade related for years outside of my own property, and that my current vehicles don’t exactly allow me to work as I used to be able to. I’m unlikely to get work where I’m currently located either so that’s another difficultly, and like plot, I’m not exactly thrilled of the thought of being on the tools in the latter part of my working life but, if the current situation in aviation doesn’t work out for me well I won’t go broke and could probably spend a few years in the trades and return down the track.
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Old 10th Aug 2020, 00:55
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I assume the QF pilot Vet is back as a Veterinarian.
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Old 10th Aug 2020, 01:03
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I suppose there’s always Uber. We could just drive each other around, make each other coffee and maybe even pour each other beers!

Isn’t that like the rest of the economy? Trickle down economics from the guys digging up dirt and sending it elsewhere?
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Old 10th Aug 2020, 02:01
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine View Post
I suppose there’s always Uber. We could just drive each other around, make each other coffee and maybe even pour each other beers!

Isn’t that like the rest of the economy? Trickle down economics from the guys digging up dirt and sending it elsewhere?

Let me introduce you to something relatively new I discovered as a retiree, they are called, "The Mens Shed" community service style organisation where men can go and do those little jobs without having to buy the tools and equipment that you'll use only a couple of times. it's supposed to be for making one off items for use by the community and generally providing a get together for us retired good for nothings An alternative to the dog house that every married man is familiar.
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Old 10th Aug 2020, 02:40
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Originally Posted by machtuk View Post
Remember our corrupt Govt represent ALL Australians, pilots are just a minority group in the scheme of things & the general public would be mortified if the Govt lent a financial hand to a bunch of glorified bus drivers, -)

Funny if you even get on a plane and the shit hits the fan I'd hope your won't have to trust those "glorified bus drivers" up the front for your personal and families safety, I'm guessing praying the rosary is your strategy? That Air India B737 crash a few days ago is what happens when well to put it bluntly the shit hits the fan and your glorified bus drivers weren't very glorified ;
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Old 10th Aug 2020, 04:44
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Originally Posted by TACQANAVIAVEC View Post
Funny if you even get on a plane and the shit hits the fan I'd hope your won't have to trust those "glorified bus drivers" up the front for your personal and families safety, I'm guessing praying the rosary is your strategy? That Air India B737 crash a few days ago is what happens when well to put it bluntly the shit hits the fan and your glorified bus drivers weren't very glorified ;
Definitely agree, HOWEVER.......

Years of cheap fares and almost infinite choice have made air travel all so familiar, and might I say even hum drum. And let’s not forget the inexorable erosion of pilot wages and conditions. All with the effect of rendering a once admired profession to the realm of Bob Hawke’s most infamous statement. That is of course until the shit hits the fan. Then an experienced and professional crew will turn a potentially disastrous situation into no more than a delay. Not only will Joe Public have no idea what was involved in keeping him/her safe, but will probably bitch about being late.

I’m convinced that what was largely responsible for the now distant memory of the great pilot shortage, has also helped drive the final nail into something we were all truly proud of. As far as the rest of society goes, NFI, and couldn’t care less.

But I’m preaching to the choir.
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Old 10th Aug 2020, 12:05
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This is from luftfart.nu googletranslated from Danish to English, and just the first 2/3 of the article:

Originally Posted by Easyheat View Post
The Corona pandemic has left aviation in ruins, and thousands of pilots have been released or bankrupt. After more than 30 years in the air, I do not remember it ever being worse.

The situation has led many pilots to consider what skills a life in aviation has given them. At the country's job centers, bus driving licenses and truck certificates are in full swing. But is that really the only thing the pilots can do? Transporting people and freight from A to B?

Here are some thoughts from me on what I have experienced. My list is not comprehensive enough at all, but then I can make a post more another day.


What can they do then, those pilots?

Demonstrate leadership and collaboration with a wide range of human types.
Analyze complicated contexts - both technical and social.
Prioritize and make decisions in a saturated information environment.
Speak in public, teach and share knowledge.
Demonstrate calm, discipline and flexibility.
An airplane is a small community at 10 kilometers altitude, and the captain is the city mayor. The mate is the deputy mayor. The safe settlement of the flight is a complex teamwork between many people. Although I'm focusing on the pilots here, it takes a lot of people's effort before a plane takes off. They will all be an asset for Danish companies. The whole thing is probably one of the most complex logistical operations carried out on a commercial basis. Getting into all of them here is simply getting too extensive.Being a pilot is more of a management responsibility than anything else. One has to work with a very wide range of personalities. You are in charge of the newly hatched student who has his first job after a life on the school bench and who is suddenly in a demanding industry (and no, the cabin crew is not employed to serve coffee and tea). It takes care and understanding to accommodate the many who are new to jobs. You also have to work with experienced veterans who have spent most of their adult lives in the air - and this makes other demands. There must be collaboration across languages ​​and cultures, as the aviation industry is an international environment - and most have worked abroad for periods. You do not get a long career in the air without a certain amount of social intelligence.
An aircraft is an advanced machine, and its operation is governed by technical insight, established operating procedures (Standard Operating Procedures), complicated rules and a very large flow of information. When you have to act with many different people at the same time, it requires skills in maintaining an overview - separating "dirt from cinnamon" and prioritizing the next action. This is the pilot's everyday life.!
I believe the writer is correct in everything. But I still ask myself, where are all the Hard Skills, that would make me as an employer, employ this guy in a ground job, who has all these soft skills? Hence my remark, that there is IMHO no future in aviation. Comments more than welcome.
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Old 10th Aug 2020, 13:16
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There are a number of industries that don't have a future. The pandemic just highlights an industry (Airlines) that in this case the very first and deeply impacted by major change. The mind boggles when technology delivers a very small, self contained, unlimited power source that renders the Oil and Gas Industries almost worthless in a very short period of time. It's going to be a major economic impact not unlike a pandemic.
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