Qantas schadenfreud.

[Renton Field]

The reality,that commentators and contributors of any tail have stated on many threads since March,and worth repeating,is simply that absolutely NO ONE is immune from the possibility of job loss,stand down,significant reductions in T&C,reduced hours,whatever......As mentioned above,if things keep regularly spiking,and peckerheads of all kinds refuse to follow the rules,then the Q will be in as much trouble as any of the government owned/assisted biggies overseas,regardless of management skill.
There is NO guarantee of protection for anyone,and has been thus since this thing began.
Act accordingly.

[George Glass]

The real question Mola is why do you bother ?
What bizarre form of gratification do you get from other peoples misery?

The Germans have quite a few useful words.
Like Backpfeifengesicht..........

[boaccomet4]

I do not know if this agreement with the Federal Government still exists but it may be a means of saving QF and cementing their backing from the Government. When I joined what is now QF Shorthaul in the early 1970's I was advised by a soon to retire foundation member that there was an agreement with the Federal Government/RAAF that in a time of war or threats thereof that TAA and Qantas may be required to become part of the military transport / cargo division.of the RAAF. Maybe clutching at straws here but the last thing any Australian wants to see is the demise of QF. Be interested in your feedback.

[chookcooker]

So picking winners in other words

[Ollie Onion]

If this goes on long enough that Airlines with Qantas's balance sheet go down the drain then the whole world is f**(ed. Qantas has openly stated that with the CURRENT situation as of 6 weeks ago they have enough cash to sustain the business until December 21. Since then Jetstar Japan and Jetstar NZ have started flying again and will be at close to 100% in the next few weeks. As soon as Australia sorts itself out and starts unlimited domestic travel again then a good proportion of the domestic business will be back there. The NZ PM is now openly talking about a Tasman Bubble with just WA and QLD and ScoMo has for the first time said this may be what happens. On top of that it looks as though Qantas will not be paying anyone who is not working, contrast that to say Air NZ or BA or Emirates who are having to pay EVERYONE a wage while this goes on. As I say if Qantas sinks then the whole world economy is more screwed than it already is. Is there any other airline (pax) out their where people would feel anymore confident about being part of. And of course Sunfish you have been saying for months now that receivership is going to be great for Virgin and they will be stronger and better after it...... on that logic if Qantas does go to the wall then surely the receivership might be better for everyone as they will be stronger and better.

[Flaming galah]

Originally Posted by TBM-Legend

I heard, she said, he said etc etc is not evidence...​​​​​​

but this was straight from the mouth of the Chairman of a company that was once a bank. Veracity assured...

[rmm]

Originally Posted by George Glass

The real question Mola is why do you bother ?

It all stems back to the demise of Ansett. He's never let it go.

[Window heat]

Well, for a thread which began with an all knowing, gloating monologue, it seems to have ended as a bit of a piss and wind show.

[junior.VH-LFA]

Originally Posted by boaccomet4

I do not know if this agreement with the Federal Government still exists but it may be a means of saving QF and cementing their backing from the Government. When I joined what is now QF Shorthaul in the early 1970's I was advised by a soon to retire foundation member that there was an agreement with the Federal Government/RAAF that in a time of war or threats thereof that TAA and Qantas may be required to become part of the military transport / cargo division.of the RAAF. Maybe clutching at straws here but the last thing any Australian wants to see is the demise of QF. Be interested in your feedback.

Become part of? No.

Commercial aviation has always been vital part of the ADF Logisitcs chain and likely always will be; but I don't think you're going to be getting the call up for national service anytime soon mate.

[rattman]

Originally Posted by Sunfish

An interesting side effect to the ban on international travel is that, outside Melbourne, the domestic tourist market is going crazy. The caravan, camping and four wheel drive markets are insane at present. All that international travel budget is being channeled into domestic tourism. You cannot get a booking to fit a tow bar for weeks is what I’m told.

Flights brisbane to cairns have been pretty full, theres a substantial amount of people flying atm. Caravan parks in FNQ are booked out with grey nomads.

Originally Posted by junior.VH-LFA

Become part of? No.

Commercial aviation has always been vital part of the ADF Logisitcs chain and likely always will be; but I don't think you're going to be getting the call up for national service anytime soon mate.

While australia doesn't the same extreme formal power that the US govt does on their airlines. Australian govt did press the ANA planes into military service in WW2. If a global war was to happen again you can bet it would happen again

[mppgf]

Originally Posted by rattman

Flights brisbane to cairns have been pretty full, theres a substantial amount of people flying atm. Caravan parks in FNQ are booked out with grey nomads.



While australia doesn't the same extreme formal power that the US govt does on their airlines. Australian govt did press the ANA planes into military service in WW2. If a global war was to happen again you can bet it would happen again

Good luck to the Australian government trying to press ANA planes into military service LOL

[Springbok614]

Originally Posted by Renton Field

The reality,that commentators and contributors of any tail have stated on many threads since March,and worth repeating,is simply that absolutely NO ONE is immune from the possibility of job loss,stand down,significant reductions in T&C,reduced hours,whatever......As mentioned above,if things keep regularly spiking,and peckerheads of all kinds refuse to follow the rules,then the Q will be in as much trouble as any of the government owned/assisted biggies overseas,regardless of management skill.
There is NO guarantee of protection for anyone,and has been thus since this thing began.
Act accordingly.

+1 👍🏽 That is about the short and the long of it.

[rattman]

Originally Posted by mppgf

Good luck to the Australian government trying to press ANA planes into military service LOL

My point is that it has been done before, ANA was predecessor of qantas and a was nationalized in WW2. They will do it again if needed

[TBM-Legend]

Originally Posted by rattman

My point is that it has been done before, ANA was predecessor of qantas and a was nationalized in WW2. They will do it again if needed

Facts my boy...ANA was not the predecessor of Qantas. It's lineage is Holman Airways merged with Adelaide Airways to become ANA and subsequentlt morphed into Ansett-ANA and then the ANA name was dropped...

Qantas has always been its own entity and added a few

[pondoklabu]

Originally Posted by Sunfish

I take very strong exception to your characterisation of any of my posts - ever - as being “ violently hostile“ to any employees of Qantas

Sunfish you are a old fool, you have 3 consistent themes in all your posts.
1 Your continue hatred for all things Qantas because they have the temerity of not being based in Melbourne.
2 Your constant boasting of business contacts to prove to all and sundry your not some washed up has been.
and finally 3 and this is my favourite , I have literally lost count how many times you threaten to leave this forum but alas never have.

Before ranting about your purity of intent mixed with the greater knowledge about everything, how about you look up what Schadenfreude
actually means, then try and explain why seeing good people having their lives destroyed gives you pleasure.

you are a complete clown and you should be ashamed, however I certain you won’t feel any remorse because of overwhelming supply of self indulgent superiority .

[Arnold E]

Plenty of people on here that are looking to take pleasure in the good people of REX have their lives destroyed so Sunny is no orphan.

[Lambswool]

Originally Posted by eckhard

Not to detract from your post, but it’s Schadenfreude, with a capital “S” and a terminating “e”. Thanks.

Yes, we can Google the word also. No need to tell us how good you are at doing the same.

[Boeingpilot738]

Originally Posted by Arnold E

Plenty of people on here that are looking to take pleasure in the good people of REX have their lives destroyed so Sunny is no orphan.

Plenty? Really?

[Bodie1]

Plenty of people on here that are looking to take pleasure in the good people of REX have their lives destroyed so Sunny is no orphan.

Nah, just people sick to death of their continual ******* whinging.

[eckhard]

Originally Posted by Lambswool

Yes, we can Google the word also. No need to tell us how good you are at doing the same.

I certainly have used Google often and I must admit that I sometimes pretend that I haven't; however, in this particular case I relied on my mother tongue. I'm half-German, you see. There's a clue in my user name!