QF pulls the plug on international flights to March 2021
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You want to blame him for quarantine, well why was hotel quarantine implemented, because people couldn’t be trusted to stay in their homes and self isolate.
It has been identified that on the 28th of March that Chairman Dan was strongly advised against using private security contractors to guard the hotels. But he went ahead and did it anyway. Brett Sutton has said that current outbreaks are the result of the failure of hotel quarantine. Andrews then made several statements blaming ALL Victorians for the current situation. It is known that there is one particular community group that has flouted the 'rules.'
There is one **** wit in Victoria, the fish rots from the head first.
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The latest research is saying antibodies are only good for about 3 months. A new more terrifying consequence is emerging within asymptomatic young people who were otherwise healthy low risk suffering blood clots and stroke.
We have a long way to go, best we do everything possible to avoid infection in the first place. I've seen enough to know we can't trust people to do the right thing.
We have a long way to go, best we do everything possible to avoid infection in the first place. I've seen enough to know we can't trust people to do the right thing.
I had Covid-19 in early April; cough, loss of sense of smell, badly fatigued and in bed at home for 2-3 days.
I gave plasma 2 weeks ago for the UK clinical trials using it as a treatment, and have enough antibodies they want some more.
And I'm fitter and healthier now than I've been for years.
There will always be outliers and oddities,the vast majority of people get it like a dose of flu and nothing more.
There are certain things you can do to mitigate risk. Given the current state of affairs (pun intended) is it that much of an ask to minimise social activities. Unfortunately for the majority of the populace that drink excessively (yes Irene more than a bottle of Scotch a day is excessive), smoke, do drugs, don’t wear helmets/seat belts, (nature thinning the herd via the Darwin theory) etc, and behave in an anti-social way that causes a) a burden on the system via medical requirements b) a burden on society via medical requirements due to the others they take out, do need to be told with enforcement what to do. Comparison of risk or death toll with such things as road deaths are typical stats without all facts. How many road deaths are due to speeding, under the influence of something, in an unsafe vehicle, driving at a speed not commiserate with ability, fatigue etc. Remove these stupid things (yeah I am stupid but not so much now I’m through puberty)) and what would the road toll be. You maybe willing to accept the risk due to someone else’s stupidity but I would rather not.
On mitigating risk. Acknowledge that if doing so causes more damage then the “issue” you are mitigating against, than logic would dictate not to do so. The complaints that the economy is going bust and therefore remove all restrictions does not hold water as it has already been pointed out “Save lives or save jobs. The only country experimenting with that approach (Sweden) has a death rate 5-12x higher than its Scandinavian neighbours, yet its economy has contracted pretty much identically to those countries”. So what is the risk associated with minimising social activities. We cannot party, go to sporting events, behave idiotically (or appropriately if you are sub 25 y.o) in public to impress our friends?
A fair proportion of the world must be in bewilderment at people that complain about not being able to socialise as they walk the 10 miles to get their bucket of dirty water.
On mitigating risk. Acknowledge that if doing so causes more damage then the “issue” you are mitigating against, than logic would dictate not to do so. The complaints that the economy is going bust and therefore remove all restrictions does not hold water as it has already been pointed out “Save lives or save jobs. The only country experimenting with that approach (Sweden) has a death rate 5-12x higher than its Scandinavian neighbours, yet its economy has contracted pretty much identically to those countries”. So what is the risk associated with minimising social activities. We cannot party, go to sporting events, behave idiotically (or appropriately if you are sub 25 y.o) in public to impress our friends?
A fair proportion of the world must be in bewilderment at people that complain about not being able to socialise as they walk the 10 miles to get their bucket of dirty water.
Don't believe everything you read, especially not every bit of 'latest research'.
I had Covid-19 in early April; cough, loss of sense of smell, badly fatigued and in bed at home for 2-3 days.
I gave plasma 2 weeks ago for the UK clinical trials using it as a treatment, and have enough antibodies they want some more.
And I'm fitter and healthier now than I've been for years.
There will always be outliers and oddities,the vast majority of people get it like a dose of flu and nothing more.
I had Covid-19 in early April; cough, loss of sense of smell, badly fatigued and in bed at home for 2-3 days.
I gave plasma 2 weeks ago for the UK clinical trials using it as a treatment, and have enough antibodies they want some more.
And I'm fitter and healthier now than I've been for years.
There will always be outliers and oddities,the vast majority of people get it like a dose of flu and nothing more.
Don't believe everything you read, especially not every bit of 'latest research'.
I had Covid-19 in early April; cough, loss of sense of smell, badly fatigued and in bed at home for 2-3 days.
I gave plasma 2 weeks ago for the UK clinical trials using it as a treatment, and have enough antibodies they want some more.
And I'm fitter and healthier now than I've been for years.
There will always be outliers and oddities,the vast majority of people get it like a dose of flu and nothing more.
I had Covid-19 in early April; cough, loss of sense of smell, badly fatigued and in bed at home for 2-3 days.
I gave plasma 2 weeks ago for the UK clinical trials using it as a treatment, and have enough antibodies they want some more.
And I'm fitter and healthier now than I've been for years.
There will always be outliers and oddities,the vast majority of people get it like a dose of flu and nothing more.
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Died from it, or died with it? I (and many others) am still not sold. There is a massive amount of misinformation and hype being spread by press, politicians and the like. Years down the track when this is over, it will be analysed and torn apart, and exposed for the total mess it has become and the damage it has caused.
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Died from it, or died with it? I (and many others) am still not sold. There is a massive amount of misinformation and hype being spread by press, politicians and the like. Years down the track when this is over, it will be analysed and torn apart, and exposed for the total mess it has become and the damage it has caused.
But it’s just not going to happen.
Ive objectivity read plenty of information both for and against the deadlines of the virus and unfortunately the overwhelming majority of evidence is that this thing is no joke.
Ive even gone as far as to google ‘is the virus becoming less deadly’ and ‘is the death toll of the virus being over reported’ but there is a very slim amount of credible evidence to back up any of those ideas.
If you want to obtain your information about the virus from within a silo of sources that echo your pre-held opinion then that’s your right to do so, but I would encourage you to try and have an unbiased perspective of this crisis, as hard as that is for us to do.
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Up to this point we have been dealing with containment of known and possible imported cases. Victoria is experiencing for the first time a wave of the pandemic (locally acquired source) it must be contained with zero new cases for at least two full virus cycles before it's deemed to be the end of the first wave.
All eyes on Queensland (most likely next) over the next few weeks, should it experience a locally acquired first wave outbreak.
For the first time we will know for ourselves just how bad or not it is for ourselves.
All eyes on Queensland (most likely next) over the next few weeks, should it experience a locally acquired first wave outbreak.
For the first time we will know for ourselves just how bad or not it is for ourselves.
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[QUOTE=ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE;10841929]My career, my life, my finances (like most people’s here) have been turned upside down by this virus. Nothing in the world would make me happier than for the collective medical consensus to wake up tomorrow and say “you know what, we were wrong, we’ve had another look at this virus and it’s not that bad, you can go back to life as normal.”
But it’s just not going to happen.
Even if it did happen, their would be massive cover ups. Books will be written, movies will be made. One comes to mind "Capricorn 1" when a moon landing was done in a hangar.
They could do one on the WHO. Did they really know about this virus in November or earlier. Why did they not contain Wuhan in the first place. Chinese killing their own whistleblowers.
Remember My ViT D theory. I don't want them to come out in 2 years time and say "you know what, all the deaths all recorded a Vit D deficiency."
We still don't know anything about the 600,000 deaths. We need some autopsy results.
Careers, social life, finances may have been intact today, though somewhere in the chains of command errors have occurred and have not been picked up.
If only the WHO had had a FDR/CVR I wonder what would be revealed.
But it’s just not going to happen.
Even if it did happen, their would be massive cover ups. Books will be written, movies will be made. One comes to mind "Capricorn 1" when a moon landing was done in a hangar.
They could do one on the WHO. Did they really know about this virus in November or earlier. Why did they not contain Wuhan in the first place. Chinese killing their own whistleblowers.
Remember My ViT D theory. I don't want them to come out in 2 years time and say "you know what, all the deaths all recorded a Vit D deficiency."
We still don't know anything about the 600,000 deaths. We need some autopsy results.
Careers, social life, finances may have been intact today, though somewhere in the chains of command errors have occurred and have not been picked up.
If only the WHO had had a FDR/CVR I wonder what would be revealed.
I haven’t seen any either, but I know medical professionals who have, and the results are frightening.
Keep going with your conspiracy theories TurnLeft, you’re just making yourself look more of a fool.
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Maybe they like their covid parties. Maybe some New Yorkers have driven down the freeway.
Though I just looked at worldometers at it seems Miami is worst hit then Palm Beach then it really thins out.
High density living in tall buildings is a another trend. Just like Nth Melbourne, Flemington.
Though I just looked at worldometers at it seems Miami is worst hit then Palm Beach then it really thins out.
High density living in tall buildings is a another trend. Just like Nth Melbourne, Flemington.
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Keep going with your conspiracy theories TurnLeft, you’re just making yourself look more of a fool.
Just thinking outside the square. Patient Confidentiality. It's not private, it's a public disease.
But if I'm a fool for you at least that's something. Two hearts beat as one.
Just thinking outside the square. Patient Confidentiality. It's not private, it's a public disease.
But if I'm a fool for you at least that's something. Two hearts beat as one.
High density living in tall buildings is a another trend. Just like Nth Melbourne, Flemington.
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So the secret is to wear a mask. Here goes.
What's the fine if you don't wear one in HK.
Vic police are going to have a field day come Thur.
Maybe the state economy will start to recover in 4 weeks.
Their is a method of Dan's madness.
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Fair enough I've been stumped. HK figures and Taiwan's are good though.
So the secret is to wear a mask. Here goes.
What's the fine if you don't wear one in HK.
Vic police are going to have a field day come Thur.
Maybe the state economy will start to recover in 4 weeks.
Their is a method of Dan's madness.
So the secret is to wear a mask. Here goes.
What's the fine if you don't wear one in HK.
Vic police are going to have a field day come Thur.
Maybe the state economy will start to recover in 4 weeks.
Their is a method of Dan's madness.
The rates of people wearing masks has been steadily increasing at my local shops, I’d say it’s up to about 70-80% now, 2 days before its compulsory.
Those that want to have a one man protest by heroically strolling bare faced through their local Woolies come Thursday will be the odd man out I suspect and will most likely comply within a week or two
As far as I know, fines only for not wearing on public transport. There is talk of fines for not wearing whilst in public, though. People just get on with the job of wearing masks here, particularly uncomfortable in 34 deg heat & 95% humidity.
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