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Old 25th May 2021, 00:30
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Noting the issues of potential sample bias with such a small sample, if you look at QF, VA and Rex midday/1pm SYD-MEL flights today, QF have a somewhat astounding 90% LF, VA around 55% and Rex will post something like 35-40%.
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Old 25th May 2021, 02:02
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
Noting the issues of potential sample bias with such a small sample, if you look at QF, VA and Rex midday/1pm SYD-MEL flights today, QF have a somewhat astounding 90% LF, VA around 55% and Rex will post something like 35-40%.
I think the QF 90% load is probably explained by the cancellation of the 12:30 flight so a lot of its pax will have been shifted onto the 1PM departure.
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Old 25th May 2021, 02:08
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
If your looking for loads on online platforms like Expert Flyer the loads won’t be accurate until after flight had left.
Yep, I'm aware of that limitation. The QF and VA numbers are from a more reliable source, Rex less so but I've applied a generous fudge factor there (the Rex LF could be as low as 30%).
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Old 25th May 2021, 02:17
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Originally Posted by 1A_Please
I think the QF 90% load is probably explained by the cancellation of the 12:30 flight so a lot of its pax will have been shifted onto the 1PM departure.
Would depend on when they cancelled the 12.30pm but yes, that most assuredly could explain that very high LF. The same 1pm flight tomorrow looks like a 70% LF presently.
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Old 25th May 2021, 02:30
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Hearing whispers of rex crew leaving for VA
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Old 25th May 2021, 03:23
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Load factors for this year are a waste of time comparing. Many flyers would have credits and FF points from last year they might be cashing in on QF and VA, hard to say what is revenue and whats pre-sold bookings being honored. Next year the LFs might be more reflective of actual sales. End of year results will tell the story for those listed companies.
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Old 25th May 2021, 04:23
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Hearing whispers of rex crew leaving for VA
With Virgin’s re-employment policy - it was always going to be risky hiring a heap of redundant WB pilots.
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Old 25th May 2021, 06:32
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AFAIK VA haven’t re-employed any crew just yet?
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Old 25th May 2021, 09:00
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Originally Posted by slice
AFAIK VA haven’t re-employed any crew just yet?
It sounds like it's in the pipeline.
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Old 25th May 2021, 11:48
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
Load factors for this year are a waste of time comparing. Many flyers would have credits and FF points from last year they might be cashing in on QF and VA, hard to say what is revenue and whats pre-sold bookings being honored. Next year the LFs might be more reflective of actual sales. End of year results will tell the story for those listed companies.
I’ve certainly booked several flights recently on Virgin simply to get rid of points.
Not because I necessarily wanted to fly with them.

Don’t want to get caught in another Ansett.
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Old 25th May 2021, 12:08
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Why do so many of you care what the LF are? Have you not got something better to do than be searching what Rexs load factors are? It appears some of you have no life what so ever. Get a life. It’s not important.
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Old 25th May 2021, 12:43
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Seriously
Post of the year for me. And notice so much of it all comes from the same boring, repetitive offenders.
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Old 26th May 2021, 00:48
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So does anyone know what the loads were like today out of Melbourne considering the new restrictions?

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Old 26th May 2021, 04:39
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I do not have intimate knowledge of the funding agreement between REX and PAG Asia Capital. I know this though:
1. PAG would give REX $1.50 per share in what is essentially a cash for equity swap.
2. The first $50M gives PAG a 23% stake in REX
3. However, the remaining $100M gives PAG a far less attractive conversion rate. PAG would then have a 48% stake in REX.
4. The current share price is $1.24 and the YTD trend is bad. Put it all another way…REX has a total market Capitalisation well less than the $150M in the PAG agreement.

Now LF might matter nothing to you or I, but do they matter to PAG? Without them it’s game over in the Jet space….and how keen will they be to inject the remaining $100M? In a congested domestic market, load factors means more to REX than anyone when their half year government grants and subsidies represented 1.5 times their entire passenger revenue. Private Equity will decide, and you can be sure they are watching LF carefully.

It matters not what level of debt QF have, or the finances of Virgin (Bain). The first decision point will be for PAG capital to show their intent, commitment and stomach to keep playing.

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Old 26th May 2021, 07:19
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Looks like Rex may be in the market for some pilots. 88 pilots due to be re employed back at Virgin by years end is the word on the street. 44 CPT and FO spots coming back.
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Old 26th May 2021, 12:07
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Looks like Rex may be in the market for some pilots. 88 pilots due to be re employed back at Virgin by years end is the word on the street. 44 CPT and FO spots coming back.
Who was the clever Richard who employed ex wb senior pilots. Extra training only to have some of them bug off.
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Old 26th May 2021, 12:17
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Originally Posted by On Guard
Who was the clever Richard who employed ex wb senior pilots. Extra training only to have some of them bug off.
And yet they missed an opportunity to employ an experienced VA 737 Captain who had no right of return to Virgin.
Go figure!
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Old 26th May 2021, 20:31
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Allegedly, ADL-ML-ADL route was REX best performing that has now potential to be canceled as SA will tighten their border today with VIC, expected case numbers to blow out. Their very poorly performing SY-ML-SY will almost be reduced to ferrying empty A/C after today as NSW will tighten their travel requirements.

Will this accelerate their permanent grounding, or, will JS have money in the bank to pay for a non flying 737 op!
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Old 26th May 2021, 23:31
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Originally Posted by SHVC
Allegedly, ADL-ML-ADL route was REX best performing that has now potential to be canceled as SA will tighten their border today with VIC, expected case numbers to blow out. Their very poorly performing SY-ML-SY will almost be reduced to ferrying empty A/C after today as NSW will tighten their travel requirements.

Will this accelerate their permanent grounding, or, will JS have money in the bank to pay for a non flying 737 op!
surely as they made the decision to launch an airline during the midst of a pandemic, the 737 shouldn’t and won’t receive a cent of tax payer money to prop it up during these lockdowns..?
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Old 26th May 2021, 23:44
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Not sure where the doom is coming from, Rex is breaking even this year, a few managed cancellations is not going to affect that much. Flyers don't pay for tickets at the gate so empty airplanes just get cancelled, tickets deferred, money is in the bank, this actually helps operators with low LF as the passengers are then combined onto flights later with more paying passengers for a higher LF. Its not like they are losing $2 billion a year at the moment,or are coming out of insolvency.
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