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Old 3rd Dec 2020, 02:15
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Can anyone with first hand knowledge of the Rex Saab operation give some insight on where the fleet sits. In terms of age, reliability, suitable capacity in the markets they serve? I would have thought that it is a very old fleet that needs updating? Perhaps that is where Rex should be paying attention to?
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Gee, even with a MOU they certainly seem to have the cheque book out.

Good luck to them.

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*the Australian tax payer’s cheque book on speed dial via MM
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”we have no debt”,
$150mil loan Facility with PAG ( not debt? )
$ 6-10 leases on 73’s.




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Any info on how the proving flight went? Break down on the flight, did it "divert" or any other inflight requirements from CASA?
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maybe Rex put a lot of cheap seats out there ? Apart from Rex & travel agents, who have access to their inventory,
Travel agents cannot tell how many seats there are in each booking class, or fare bucket. They can see that there are 7 or 9 seats available but they cannot see that (for instance) there were 30 seats in X class. Not all airline staff can see this information either.
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Originally Posted by Wingspar
Can anyone with first hand knowledge of the Rex Saab operation give some insight on where the fleet sits. In terms of age, reliability, suitable capacity in the markets they serve? I would have thought that it is a very old fleet that needs updating? Perhaps that is where Rex should be paying attention to?
​​​​​​Fleet is old but reliable, cost next to nothing to run with no real viable replacement. ATRs mentioned as a replacement soon but that will come with its own troubles including reduced schedules to smaller destinations.
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Old 3rd Dec 2020, 09:38
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ex 'FlightAware': VH-VUF- Operating as Regional Express Airlines 1945......

Originally Posted by Servo
Any info on how the proving flight went? Break down on the flight, did it "divert" or any other inflight requirements from CASA?
'Servo'-

Weeell- 'according' to 'these' Dudes...... Link here: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...000Z/YSSY/YMML

'It', was 'down and back'- all be it 57mins late 'Off-Blocks' at the get-go, understandable one would have thought- given, the Task at Hand/and the Compliance/Assessment ramifications......????

"One" may/or may-not also, assume????, Nil Rubber-Jungle deployment (unless simulated)- via the profile...????? and Nil Diversions....???? again, via the profile...????

But also, nil 'Sharpie'- 'this, IS how YOU run a Charter-Boat !!!!!' action- which, probably (like yourself) may have been anticipated/expected....???? or NOT??

Nar, got Nothing- time shall reveal....???

rgds all/
be well
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Old 3rd Dec 2020, 12:20
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Originally Posted by getaway
maybe Rex put a lot of cheap seats out there ? Apart from Rex & travel agents, who have access to their inventory, no one knows exactly how many seats at $79.
Actually there's no maybe to it. Rex made a statement to the ASX stating that they were selling 100,000 promotional $79 fares. Both ASX rules and the Corporations Act have pretty clear rules relating to the veracity of such statements.

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Am sure Rex won't be broadcasting their sales numbers.
Funny how Qantas and Virgin demonstrate no such reluctance when it comes to talking up how quickly their sale fares sell out. If Rex had made even a half decent fist of selling their promotional fares we'd be reading about it. The fact that their $79 fares are still currently available every day bar three or four in March and right across the Easter long weekend says that they are not exactly shooting the lights out on sales.

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Maybe Rex has sold ****loads & decided, rather than match Virgins $99 sale price today, to put a few 1000 more $79 out there.
And maybe they didn't. I know what I think is more likely.
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
Actually there's no maybe to it. Rex made a statement to the ASX stating that they were selling 100,000 promotional $79 fares. Both ASX rules and the Corporations Act have pretty clear rules relating to the veracity of such statements.

TO CLARIFY
Know one except Rex & travel agents know how many $79 seats on every flight. Suspect very few during peak hour flightsMon-Fri.

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Funny how Qantas and Virgin demonstrate no such reluctance when it comes to talking up how quickly their sale fares sell out. If Rex had made even a half decent fist of selling their promotional fares we'd be reading about it. The fact that their $79 fares are still currently available every day bar three or four in March and right across the Easter long weekend says that they are not exactly shooting the lights out on sales.

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Who knows ? Maybe they want to keep the public buying them ? Conventional wisdom is dangerous, in this new world.

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that's easy to say & impossible for anyone to disprove
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And maybe they didn't. I know what I think is more likely.
Who knows. Rex had to get sales fares out there before other airlines grabbed their passengers.
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Old 3rd Dec 2020, 13:49
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Originally Posted by getaway
TO CLARIFY
Know one ...
Yes, a few actually.

Originally Posted by getaway
Who knows ? Maybe they want to keep the public buying them ?
Ah, yes, of course. The best way to get people to buy something is to announce that there's none of it left. They're a cunning bunch those marketeers, aren't they?

Originally Posted by getaway
Conventional wisdom is dangerous, in this new world.
I don't know about being dangerous but, conventional or otherwise, it's manifestly in short supply in some quarters.

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Virgin is playing the game now. Jetstar have followed cutting another $25 bucks of it. The Roo is not playing.

Clever move also sending out an email to its
10 million members reminding them to book a flight by March to maintain Silver to Platinum status. Cheap way to maintain their status and stay within the Virgin fort.



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Old 12th Dec 2020, 08:49
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can they keep up tho! I think not, time will tell.

“Rex have got the benefit of a regional market to feed into the domestic routes, and as long as they can stick to schedule with only six aircraft, they should do OK.”
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Old 12th Dec 2020, 09:05
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
can they keep up tho! I think not, time will tell.

“Rex have got the benefit of a regional market to feed into the domestic routes, and as long as they can stick to schedule with only six aircraft, they should do OK.”
I think they are over playing the feeding off regional bit. They won’t be filling half or even a quarter of jet flights with pax coming off the Saab’s. Saab seat capacity is a drop on the ocean compared to a jet operation. We are not talking Q400s here.

They might get some better connecting numbers when they launch the ATR.
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Old 12th Dec 2020, 11:16
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Originally Posted by wheels_down
I think they are over playing the feeding off regional bit. They won’t be filling half or even a quarter of jet flights with pax coming off the Saab’s. Saab seat capacity is a drop on the ocean compared to a jet operation. We are not talking Q400s here.

They might get some better connecting numbers when they launch the ATR.
Well they refuse to increase services with full pax loads on the saabs so it's definitely being over played currently
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 04:33
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Mr Sharp crying to his Ministerial mates again.....

REX are once again having a big sook about new routes announced by QantasLink, they include Mount Gambier, Wagga Wagga, Merimbula, Newcastle, Griffith, and Albury. They have called for the Federal Government to intervene, describing the announcement as an "attack on its profitable regional operations". Always crying, always wanting it their way.

You run an airline, an airline is a business, a business has competition. Stop your moaning.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 04:39
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REX are once again having a big sook about new routes announced by QantasLink, they include Mount Gambier, Wagga Wagga, Merimbula, Newcastle, Griffith, and Albury. They have called for the Federal Government to intervene, describing the announcement as an "attack on its profitable regional operations". Always crying, always wanting it their way.

You run an airline, an airline is a business, a business has competition. Stop your moaning.
I'm hearing some dodgy stuff coming from people who work there. Lots of schedule and pax manipulation to ensure they keep all the government assistance into the new year.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 12:56
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I think Rex is about to learn a hard lesson that should have been digested in both Airlines 101 and Public Relations 202 and Governmental Relations and Media Relations. On that latter score Qantas pays more for media relations people than Rex does for a 737 lease. And they can give away memberships to one of the most exclusive clubs in the country. Rex? Not so much. The fix is in regarding competition, and largesse, and QF has the house advantage.

Everybody loves a story about a plucky band of insurgents upsetting the established order and bringing to the masses value, freedom and choice. We also wish the tooth fairy would pay for that implant we need, but alas....
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 17:38
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Rex is also about to learn another lesson, with hard borders imminent and the stand down of crews domestic network thrown into chaos. Can Rex afford the open then shut borders between NSW and VIC for the next few yrs
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I think many of you spend too much time thinking about how many punters make their travel choice. Most simply have no idea what airlines are called and who they are, and they don't care. They simply look up a website, look who has a the most reasonable fare at roughly the time they wanted and that they can pay the fare without too much hassle. The equipment or service they offer simply doesn't feature on their radar. I've been in the industry for 30 years and I can't remember who I travelled on 2 years ago. I get on, read my newspaper and get off.
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