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Old 15th Nov 2021, 21:20
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So what's the BONZA designation going to be? Can't see British Airways giving up BA willingly.
Don’t think they’ve looked that far ahead Galdian…..
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Old 15th Nov 2021, 22:30
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Originally Posted by galdian
....pestering QF, JQ, VA and BONZA.

There fixed that for you.
You're welcome.

So what's the BONZA designation going to be? Can't see British Airways giving up BA willingly.

Hahahahaha Bonza! If they ever get off the ground and that’s a big if! They can’t even get their timeline right.
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Old 15th Nov 2021, 23:29
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Originally Posted by galdian
So what's the BONZA designation going to be? Can't see British Airways giving up BA willingly.
BS..........
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 00:58
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Originally Posted by No Idea Either
I love all these comparisons to Tiger. They were a basket case. Sold for $1 a decade ago to VA who took on the $200 million in debt that they owed. Then operated on the mother’s teat for years, finally barely scrapping a profit just before the disaster of COVID-19, but always with the safety net of the mothership. REX the new tiger, I think not. You may be right SHVC, they might just plod along but they will incur massive debt unless something happens…….like say an airline collapse…..oh wait a minute, didn’t that happen already but they didn’t really collapse…………..
After spending some time at Tiger I can tell you that there was nothing wrong with the operation. Loads were excellent on most routes. The only thing that Tiger inherited from the mother’s teat was clapped out 737s and clapped out CEOs and managers. It was never given a fair crack.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 01:02
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Hahaha. "Tiger sucked off the mother's teat"??? Are you kidding? the mother's teat was dead empty. Would probably say VA was the bigger basket case.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 01:10
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Tiger Australia wasn't that flash either when it was wholly owned and operated by the SQ group. That 'Airways' show also came to mind.

This was prior to SQ group selling TT to VA for $140mil (for the first 50%) and then VA paid $1 for the remaining 50%.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 01:36
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Tiger Australia wasn't that flash either when it was wholly owned and operated by the SQ group. That 'Airways' show also came to mind.

This was prior to SQ group selling TT to VA for $140mil (for the first 50%) and then VA paid $1 for the remaining 50%.
Yep! 15 CEOs in 14 years would do that. Everyone of them a Michael O’Leary wannabe!
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 03:41
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Tiger was doing terrific until Virgin forced those heaps of **** 737’s on them and tried to “Virginise” the management.

The one time they did make money they made more money per aeroplane than Virgin did.

Everyone at Virgin hated Tiger, except of course if they could go over and take the commands. Those exact words heard from a Virgin FO.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 09:04
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Originally Posted by morno
Tiger was doing terrific until Virgin forced those heaps of **** 737’s on them and tried to “Virginise” the management.

The one time they did make money they made more money per aeroplane than Virgin did.

Everyone at Virgin hated Tiger, except of course if they could go over and take the commands. Those exact words heard from a Virgin FO.
Bulldust. Not everyone at Virgin hated Tiger. I NEVER heard anyone at Virgin say they hated Tiger. Management are management. Let's be honest management for either company hasnt been the best.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 09:11
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Bulldust. Not everyone at Virgin hated Tiger. I NEVER heard anyone at Virgin say they hated Tiger. Management are management. Let's be honest management for either company hasnt been the best.
Yeah ok, maybe that’s probably a bit too strong. But I will still never ever forget that day that FO from Virgin absolutely trashed Tiger, but then in the very same breath, said that if she could come and take a command, then she’d love it. What a disgrace.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 09:38
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Cases like that exist in every company, in every industry. Best to sort it out on an individual basis, rather than trash an entire group of pilots.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 11:13
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There is snakes in every company, been watching that play out pretty much everywhere in this, and a previous industry for the last 40 years. The pandemic has also exposed the worst in some people. I’ve had people in the same base, however on a different fleet type, tell me to my face they are superior due widebody, so I need to stand aside, or give up my command, whilst they take my job. They even all banded together, drew up some sort of plan to present to the company, narrow body pilots please stand aside...you pieces of trash came to mind etc....There has been a new division that had unfortunately been created between certain groups of people in some workplaces.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 11:52
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Fortunately the “elephant in the room” was given his place reasonably promptly, and he went and took VR.

Are there other elephants influencing AIPA right now?
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 17:08
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Hello everyone.

REX Thread!
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 22:46
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Golden Triangle Complete

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...VowKiXgBT4tl9A
The golden triangle will now be complete, will be utilising the heck out of 6 airframes!
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 23:51
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Struggling to crack 15% on many flights today.

Clearly this isn’t working. I don’t understand expanding the network when flights are largely pulling 10-40 people.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 00:28
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What I find truly amusing is that people are choosing to pay $200+ each way when they could be paying 1/3rd of that at $69. I think marketing may be the main offender here. I have no loyalty to airlines when travelling, to pay 3 times more just to have the same service seems a bit stupid honestly. Or is this a matter of people using up credits so no cheap seats available on the others. It would be crazy stupid if you had some weird idea that paying $200 more for a ticket somehow validated the $10 worth of frequent flyer points you get.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 00:58
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Originally Posted by KRUSTY 34
JH commented some months ago that they will match whatever fares the competition throws up, in order to secure their market share.

In what will ultimately be a war of attrition, load factor will probably be the only thing!

IMHO of course.

What's the point of achieving a 95% seat factor if you’re not making money? Seat factor is nothing more than an indicator of how many seats were occupied.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 05:10
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What's the point of achieving a 95% seat factor if you’re not making money? Seat factor is nothing more than an indicator of how many seats were occupied.
I absolutely agree with you Ken, unless......
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 08:11
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What I find truly amusing is that people are choosing to pay $200+ each way when they could be paying 1/3rd of that at $69.
Maybe they do remember Tiger and what happens when your flight (singular) for the day does not happen, and how much of a valued customer you turn out to be.
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