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Old 5th Jul 2020, 23:47
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Give me a break Sandy
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Old 5th Jul 2020, 23:57
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Originally Posted by pilotbm View Post
Rex have said they're averaging 40 pax a week total on the route, QF is putting 216 seats a week into the market.
Doesn't take a genius to work out there's not much demand.
I doubt Rex would be truthful with their numbers. About as reliable as CCP Covid numbers on actual infections in China, manipulated to suit their needs.

Chairman Lim Kim will be touting Eastern dash drivers as grossly overpaid!
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 00:13
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While I dont work at REX I know people who do, the numbers are about right, and I cant imagine why Lim Kim would care less what Eastern dash pilots get paid
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 00:38
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Originally Posted by pilotbm View Post
Rex have said they're averaging 40 pax a week total on the route, QF is putting 216 seats a week into the market.
Doesn't take a genius to work out there's not much demand.
If Rex are only averaging 40 pax a week on Sydney-Orange where are the other 500-750 revenue passengers who fly out of Orange on a weekly basis flying to and who are they flying with? They can't all be on FlyCorporate's twice weeklies to Essendon and Brisbane.

The Bureau of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Communications passenger activity stats showed that roughly 41,000 commercial RPT passengers flew out of Orange in 2019. The January 2020 numbers were 4,800 for the month or roughly 77 pax each day in each direction.

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Old 6th Jul 2020, 00:43
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Corruption and lies. What an upstanding business.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 00:55
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Mick, I dont know if you have noticed things are a bit different at the moment (could be a reason for that.... let me think about that for a minute), nothing is as it was in January.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 00:56
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You are delusional Arnold.

After flying REX (regrettably) twice recently, I can see why they are scared of competition. The product they offer is plain.

If there was competition, I most definitely wouldn't be flying them.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 00:58
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Yeah, whatever
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 00:59
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Maybe you should go on a cruise ship Arnold? The retired life.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 01:07
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I'll be doing just that as soon as it is safe to do that, probably the end of next year
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 02:15
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Originally Posted by Arnold E View Post
Mick, I dont know if you have noticed things are a bit different at the moment (could be a reason for that.... let me think about that for a minute), nothing is as it was in January.
Thanks Arnold, I had picked up on that. Sydney-Orange is an intrastate route and was accordingly somewhat less impacted by domestic travel restrictions. In April, with the restrictions in full swing, Orange's pax traffic was down by only around 5.5 percent year-on-year. Rex's claim of averaging (over what period is anyone's guess) only 40 pax a week doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 02:39
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I take it you actually work there, as I said i'm retired now but I know people that actually are still there, they are saying the numbers quoted are pretty close if not exactly correct, go figure.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 02:50
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Arnold are you saying you take everything you read from Rex as gospel?

If so, I have some things I would like to sell you. Great opportunity. Once in a life time.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 02:51
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There’s no way Rex are quoting the true numbers. Glad to see QF is offering much need competition on these gouged routes. I’ll take the dash.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 03:00
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Originally Posted by Arnold E View Post
I take it you actually work there, as I said i'm retired now but I know people that actually are still there, they are saying the numbers quoted are pretty close if not exactly correct, go figure.
Even if 40 is correct for whatever average week Rex are quoting (we'll have a better handle on that in a couple of weeks when the May data is released) how does that have a bearing on a competitor's decision to enter the market? This notion that currently 'there's just enough for me, so sod off all other comers' is a combination of errant nonsense and rank arrogance (and stands in stark contrast to Rex's proposed foray into the intra-capital city market).
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 03:02
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BNEA320, you obviously have difficulty with reading comprehension, I said i'm listening to people actually still working there. What have you got for sale, I'm interested
-41, its your choice but it wouldn't be the first time Q has put a Dash in a route and then pulled it later,

As I have said I dont understand all the negative Nellie stuff about REX, they are well managed and there still here
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 03:10
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Originally Posted by Arnold E View Post
Seems Joyce is "poking " REX in the eye putting a Dash into Orange and losing money doing it. By the way I dont work for REX, i'm retired
AJ is just testing the waters and will continue to poke Rex in the eye to a point where Senator Rex will need to pull out the cheque book one more time.
While he scribbles, Not Negotiable, AJ will say "while your at it yes please". AJ is chalking the cue to play a snookering shot.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 03:13
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Originally Posted by Arnold E View Post
BNEA320, you obviously have difficulty with reading comprehension, I said i'm listening to people actually still working there. What have you got for sale, I'm interested
-41, its your choice but it wouldn't be the first time Q has put a Dash in a route and then pulled it later,

As I have said I dont understand all the negative Nellie stuff about REX, they are well managed and there still here
And why is that they’re still there? They were going broke 3 months ago, now they’re expanding. It doesn’t take a genius to work out why people are questioning the outburst about the Orange-Sydney route. Especially given the scheme that they were given the cash under was meant to be used as a last resort.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 03:23
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Mick, I suggested that the route to Orange was not profitable so why would Q put a Dash in there? when Joyce claims q is bleeding cash at the rate of $40m a week? Q has not operated into there before, so with reduced passenger numbers there is no way either of them can make a profit from that route at this moment in time so whats the game? is it so QANTAS can bleed even more noney (their claim not mine) so that they can get a hand out as well. I have no problem if they get a handout as long as its not used to get rid of competition. And before you say it, Q didn't go to Orange before .
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 03:44
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As Rex try to get rid of competition (VA) by embarking on a 10 jet golden triangle operation after crying wolf?

It is kind of an unwritten rule I thinking the expectation is you don’t just take cream off the top on the triangle. I think Rex are about to find out how much it hurts when you bite the hand that feeds you. As has been been pointed out from going bankrupt to bank rolling a 10 jet operation on startup it has made the transport minister look like the goose he is.
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