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REX to transition to ATRs, start domestic jet ops

Old 16th Apr 2021, 08:03
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
Last few weeks hard to judge as its School holidays. Sydney is very up and down. Largely 10-20 people. However does spike, lunchtime today 90%. Today’s 4 and 5pm is 20 bodies each. Virgin full.

ADL/OOL 90%
SYD 10%

Early sort of data points toward a) Sydney is more full outside of peak times, so largely targeting wrong market and schedule b) Leisure demand is strong potential opportunity

However if the numbers drop next week they are f*****. Can’t rely on a few holidays a year to fill seats. So they need to not bother with BNE and next weeks Canberra missions will be a disaster.
Where do you get your data from?
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Old 16th Apr 2021, 08:25
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Although government travel is way down, Rex may do OK Sydney Canberra because they are a 'preferred' company under WOAG travel guidelines. Ie it would be very difficult for a public servant to justify booking travel on a 0900 SYDCBR QF flight if a 0905 Rex flight was cheaper.
Plus I imagine the trip cost of a clapped out Saab over a short distance would be competitive.

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Old 16th Apr 2021, 08:28
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I assume people are looking at online availability platforms like Expert Flyer. Post departure they are bang on in accuracy. Pre departure most certainly not. They are useful for award planning. I have no idea if Rex is on these platforms as many charge for subscription. Virgin is and I’ve used it before and it’s a bit iffy in the lead up to flight however 100% accurate seat maps post flight.



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Old 16th Apr 2021, 09:28
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Originally Posted by lc_461 View Post
Although government travel is way down, Rex may do OK Sydney Canberra because they are a 'preferred' company under WOAG travel guidelines. Ie it would be very difficult for a public servant to justify booking travel on a 0900 SYDCBR QF flight if a 0905 Rex flight was cheaper.
Plus I imagine the trip cost of a clapped out Saab over a short distance would be competitive.
Is your 0900 QF flight is a jet?? or does your alternative have a nice lounge?? a lot of the pollies and high end business clients do not want to travel on turbo props( I know from previous experience) and the same amount have lounge access in their contracts.

Rex will loose a fortune running 7 x daily SY-CB flights. On top of their lack of passenger demand on the jet operation.
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Old 16th Apr 2021, 10:44
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Originally Posted by lc_461 View Post
Although government travel is way down, Rex may do OK Sydney Canberra because they are a 'preferred' company under WOAG travel guidelines. Ie it would be very difficult for a public servant to justify booking travel on a 0900 SYDCBR QF flight if a 0905 Rex flight was cheaper.
Plus I imagine the trip cost of a clapped out Saab over a short distance would be competitive.
IF it was cheaper, which it won’t be. Takes care of that problem.
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Old 16th Apr 2021, 11:07
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Originally Posted by lc_461 View Post
Although government travel is way down, Rex may do OK Sydney Canberra because they are a 'preferred' company under WOAG travel guidelines. Ie it would be very difficult for a public servant to justify booking travel on a 0900 SYDCBR QF flight if a 0905 Rex flight was cheaper.
Plus I imagine the trip cost of a clapped out Saab over a short distance would be competitive.
Rex have got a few 2 hour or greater holes in their schedule at some fairly important times (eg SYD-CBR there's an 8am then a 10am, similar in the evening 5pm and then 7pm). Any public servant familiar with the one hour window provision in the Lowest Practical Fare rule will be able to dance through those gaps.
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Old 16th Apr 2021, 23:57
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Originally Posted by MickG0105 View Post
Rex have got a few 2 hour or greater holes in their schedule at some fairly important times (eg SYD-CBR there's an 8am then a 10am, similar in the evening 5pm and then 7pm). Any public servant familiar with the one hour window provision in the Lowest Practical Fare rule will be able to dance through those gaps.

Here is Rex’s new Canberra Airport lounge

Canberra's former international departures lounge will host all Rex passengers for the next three months.
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 01:55
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I wonder how much that will cost them?
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 01:57
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So with an upturn in domestic travel and Virgin, Qantas and Jetstar putting on extra aircraft and now requiring more crew, the whinging at Rex will soon turn to claims of other airlines ‘poaching’ their staff.

These highly experienced cabin crew and pilots Rex have recruited will surely be tempted to return to their legacy airlines especially given that Rex (as they very proudly made a point of when kicking off the jet operation) pay 20% less than Jetstar salaries.

This coupled with perks such as pay for your own ground schools, Uber for crew transport and lack of staff travel won’t make a long term career option at Rex seem inviting and when crew start leaving for better conditions the inevitable howling of unfairness will be echoing all the way up Baxter Rd to T2 at Sydney airport.

I guess the cadets will soon be forced to write even lengthier commitment and motivational letters prior to employment..

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Old 17th Apr 2021, 03:40
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Originally Posted by Bull_Shark View Post
So with an upturn in domestic travel and Virgin, Qantas and Jetstar putting on extra aircraft and now requiring more crew, the whinging at Rex will soon turn to claims of other airlines ‘poaching’ their staff.

These highly experienced cabin crew and pilots Rex have recruited will surely be tempted to return to their legacy airlines especially given that Rex (as they very proudly made a point of when kicking off the jet operation) pay 20% less than Jetstar salaries.

This coupled with perks such as pay for your own ground schools, Uber for crew transport and lack of staff travel won’t make a long term career option at Rex seem inviting and when crew start leaving for better conditions the inevitable howling of unfairness will be echoing all the way up Baxter Rd to T2 at Sydney airport.

I guess the cadets will soon be forced to write even lengthier commitment and motivational letters prior to employment..
Whilst nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing Rex moan and cry, I don't think they'll have any shortage anytime soon. Plenty of redundant pilots with TR waiting to come back from the Middle East and Asia.
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 06:02
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I think they were also referring to cabin crew, just as hard to replace when they make them pay for everything when they could apply to any of the other 3 and be looked after.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 04:48
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Interesting numbers on the Canberra flights. Carrying more than most Melbourne/Sydney flights.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 05:19
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
Interesting numbers on the Canberra flights. Carrying more than most Melbourne/Sydney flights.
A very low hurdle!!!
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 06:37
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
Interesting numbers on the Canberra flights. Carrying more than most Melbourne/Sydney flights.
Whay are they? I like your daily updates
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 07:06
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A couple yesterday at 30 and 40%. Otherwise 90%-Full. Much the same today. However it might be game over the day Virgin rolls back in.

OOL/ADL still big numbers. The other route best not talked about.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 08:16
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Well all airlines have certainly price gouged CBR since the pandemic began (and probably the dawn of time)... No LCC competition.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 08:35
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Another 738 for REX due in to Brisbane tonight ex Jakarta - VH-RYU
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 08:36
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
A couple yesterday at 30 and 40%. Otherwise 90%-Full. Much the same today. However it might be game over the day Virgin rolls back in.

OOL/ADL still big numbers. The other route best not talked about.
OOL gets a bit harder with school holidays wrapping up though weekend traffic should still be pretty good.
CBR will be a major challenge for ZL once Alliance starts flying the route for VA.
MEL-SYD is a disaster but no one in ZL management is prepared to swallow their pride just yet and admit the inevitable.
Still amazed that they haven't moved to a more leisure based model and tackled CNS and MCY. Other airlines are cleaning up on these routes and able to absorb the slower recovery in business routes by exploiting the booming leisure oriented routes.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 08:53
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JS is banging on this afternoon again in the AFR online accusing QF as 'technically' trading insolvent in their current financial position

No Mr Joyce, Qantas’ ‘best game’ doesn’t beat Rex (afr.com)
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 09:17
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They are throwing more flights at Adelaide later this week. Just announced.
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