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REX to transition to ATRs, start domestic jet ops

Old 30th Nov 2020, 23:23
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The new Rex website is up with Sydney - Melbourne fares available to book.

Very decent prices. Should hopefully shake up the market
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Originally Posted by transition_alt
The new Rex website is up with Sydney - Melbourne fares available to book.

Very decent prices. Should hopefully shake up the market
had a quick look, but site wouldn't accept any dates in March. What dates did you look at ?

Maybe site is overwhelmed ? or has been hacked already ? Has someone at some airline employed hackers ? Never

Remember Compass Mark 1, had a 1800 number or was it 008 in those days.

Res people kept answering the phones & no one there. Obviously a computer just kept redialing the free call number over & over & over again to try to stuff up passengers trying to book, who couldn't get through on phones.

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Old 1st Dec 2020, 00:15
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Originally Posted by morno
Tiger tried copy and paste with their 737’s using Virgin procedures, CASA said no
so they had to change a few words ? Seriously, what's the difference ?
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Jetstar can go as low as $19 AJ said himself. How long will it be before Sharpie lobbies MM for subsidised triangle for Rex.
Jetstar won't be allowed to go under a certain figure on the triangle or grt frequency too high, however AVV is not considered part of the triangle, so can see plenty of cheap fares out of AVV & not so much out of MEL, esp in peak hour Mon-Fri.

Maybe even some more nonstop flights out of AVV for the price conscious.

Can see the carpark at AVV getting bigger & bigger & if you park a loooong way away, it might actually be relatively cheap.

It's amazing how many people will drive hours to save 5 bucks. They don't value their time or don't realise the costs of driving, are not the fuel costs alone.

Southwest works off the now proven theory, that many millions in USA will drive 2 hours, but not anymore, to save on airfares. Canadians even used to cross border into USA to save on airfares.

Yanks living south of LA will also cross border on foot, at San Diego cross border xpress facility to save on airfares to other parts of Mexico & China (TIJ did have nonstop flights to China before Corona)


CBX facility from San Diego side, showing pedestrian bridge over the border. 2 other similar situations exist in EU.


when arriving back at TIJ from China or other parts of Mexico, after you collect your bags, you can then walk across the pedestrian border via bridge by turning right to go to San Diego or left to stay in Mexico. No crowds, just airline passengers.



CBX overhead. North is up. USA on top, Mexico & TIJ terminals at bottom.
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Old 1st Dec 2020, 01:15
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REX have a nice new website

REX's new website has gone live. It looks somewhat modern.

www.rex.com.au

Selling economy from $99 and also Business.
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Also they have images of the new livery.


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I think it surprisingly looks good
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Old 1st Dec 2020, 01:28
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Originally Posted by dijical
REX's new website has gone live. It looks somewhat modern.

www.rex.com.au

Selling economy from $99 and also Business.
can't get it to work on my computer, using Chrome & other.

Rex better sort this out quickly.

Will try my dumb phone.

EDIT - nope, can't book on phone either
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Old 1st Dec 2020, 01:36
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I'm having no problems on Firefox, seems ok with chrome too.
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Old 1st Dec 2020, 01:38
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Originally Posted by dijical
I'm having no problems on Firefox, seems ok with chrome too.
finally worked.

Seems a little clunky. Needs to click on a date & then confirm that date (why 2 clicks), pick a far then confirm it (another 2 clicks)

So Mon 1 MAR
SYD/MEL 0710/0850
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MEL/SYD 1700/1830

for $198

Obviously 1 MAR is 3 months away & won't be any $198 return fares left soon, but wonder what QF/VA doing same dates ?

Bet there will be a lot of bosses saying book that day trip to MEL or SYD earlier to save big bucks.

So know they have to fly months out, some few days out, but the simple answer to saving big dollars is to book a long way ahead.

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which is a good idea to have it mentioned up front. $55 is nothing to most business people

QF not matching, which seems crazy. For same flights as above QF $199 + $135.

Ok so Rex might not have many seats at this price, but QF have none.

VA $119 each way for same flights.

What are people at QF/VA doing ? Are they asleep ?

retail 101 - match the opposition in price. No one except each airline & travel agents know how many seats at that price, but it's giving a free leg up to Rex. (travel agents can see 7 or 9 seats max, but if they book 7 or 9 they can see how many more - they could book any number & simply cancel them at no cost to them, but if they did it too often QF/VA might ban them as a Rex stooge)

Was once trying to corner the market on sale fares to LAX (needed around 20 seats). Contacted travel agent & they "found" 18 cheap seats, by booking 9, then another 9, then none left. They said they could hold them for day or so, but when they cancelled them, they might not reappear. (some airlines apparently make it easy to make name changes on bookings not paid for, other don't allow it at all)

Expect on tonights news, stories about Rex's SYD/MEL/SYD fares cheaper than QF & VA & lots of them (whatever lots means)

Wake up QF/VA yield managers.

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Old 1st Dec 2020, 01:50
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Originally Posted by getaway
can't get it to work on my computer, using Chrome & other.
I'm in NZ and have no problem getting on to https://www.rex.com.au/
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Old 1st Dec 2020, 01:58
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The flexibility around some of those fares is quite attractive considering Virgin want a arm and leg if you want to change something, at a similar and even double the Rex price.

I see zero reason here to fly Jetstar if your taking baggage. Interesting to note the other fare bucket below the current advertised which also includes free baggage.
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Originally Posted by wheels_down

I see zero reason here to fly Jetstar if your taking baggage. Interesting to note the other fare bucket below the current advertised which also includes free baggage.
Baggage only appears to be included if you’re connecting to or from a regional/domestic service either way you are paying for it on one or the other 15kg regional or 23kg domestic.

They didn’t have many, if any at all at the community rate sold out already I call BS on that.

QF should be outraged at them selling business class at $299.00 as getaway mentioned JQ wouldn’t be allowed to go below a certain figure (apparently) how are Rex able!

Best of luck to them anyway QF, VA and JQ will have that Rex jet operation on it knees in no time.
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Baggage only appears to be included if you’re connecting to or from a regional/domestic service either way you are paying for it on one or the other 15kg regional or 23kg domestic.

They didn’t have many, if any at all at the community rate sold out already I call BS on that.

QF should be outraged at them selling business class at $299.00 as getaway mentioned JQ wouldn’t be allowed to go below a certain figure (apparently) how are Rex able!

Best of luck to them anyway QF, VA and JQ will have that Rex jet operation on it knees in no time.
You seem very salty...

For VA, it would be in their best interests to support Rex as they have already announced they are reducing marketshare. If they were smart, that marketshare should not go to QF (being the "super power" that they are).
The retained interline agreements between VA and ZL suggest they are still in good terms with each other also.

It would be very easy for Bain/Virgin to allow the Rex expansion to occur and later buyout either the domestic operation or the entirety of Rex to regain marketshare in years to come, once debt is paid down.
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It would be very easy for Bain/Virgin to allow the Rex expansion to occur and later buyout either the domestic operation or the entirety of Rex to regain marketshare in years to come, once debt is paid down.
Assuming the owners will sell to them and not someone else who might be interested in running an airline in Australia.
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What are people at QF/VA doing ? Are they asleep ?

retail 101 - match the opposition in price.
They are not selling a loaf of bread. There is a bit more to airline yield management then simply having the lowest price.

Which airline in Australia has been the most profitable domestically for the last few years? Are they the cheapest??

Business travellers are going to be somewhat wary of the fact that they need to wait 3 hours between flights. Meeting goes long, wait 3 hours for the next flight (if you get on). Afternoon meetings are cancelled, still need to wait 3 hours for your original service. Do they have 10 million credit card points that get them into the Rex lounge while that wait, oh probably not as they have a Velocity or Qantas FF account instead.

Not saying they won’t grab some market share and do it profitably but I hardly think the incumbents need to react too radically.

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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Baggage only appears to be included if you’re connecting to or from a regional/domestic service either way you are paying for it on one or the other 15kg regional or 23kg domestic.

They didn’t have many, if any at all at the community rate sold out already I call BS on that.

QF should be outraged at them selling business class at $299.00 as getaway mentioned JQ wouldn’t be allowed to go below a certain figure (apparently) how are Rex able!

Best of luck to them anyway QF, VA and JQ will have that Rex jet operation on it knees in no time.
think many corporate financial controllers have been told to tighten their companies belts.

This could mean keeping a much closer eye on travel spends.

If Rex are significantly cheaper than Qantas & still less than Virgin, staff might be told to fly Rex.

Qantas has a staff costs problem, too many staff paid way too much. Sounds like more will be contracted out.
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Looks like Rex may have a few glitches in their availability. I tried to book KNS to SYD one way without success.
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Old 1st Dec 2020, 04:17
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Originally Posted by Beer Baron

Not saying they won’t grab some market share and do it profitably but I hardly think the incumbents need to react too radically.
Are they not just essentially picking up the Tiger market share? Tiger had 9 flights a day ML-SY and
so does Rex.

I’m not sure who they are targeting here but it won’t be big corps. Won’t be pulling anybody away from those four flights every hour from the Virgin terminal.

I think they are targeting Grandma Betty who is travelling down to Melbourne to mind the grandkids, who refuses to fly Budget Airways. The Euro travellers will still fly Jetstar even if its $2 cheaper.

This is they issue Tiger was having with a flight every few hours. Only need to peek inside the gate area to see the target traveller. Chinese Tourist, Euro Travellers, Penrith/Wyndham residents, or Mum and Dad with ten kids under 5.
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Originally Posted by transition_alt
You seem very salty...
No not at all, but, one set a rules for one and another for Rex. They want to play with the big 3 they need to play by the same rules. I do believe this operation will not go the distance, for many reasons I’m sure I’m not the only one that thinks the same. VA (Bain) wanting to buy Rex at a later date I doubt that also as Bain won’t be around long enough.

Yeah company’s might get their staff to travel Rex as it’s cheaper that won’t last long either on A/C goes tech weather phenomena in ML or SYD creating delays etc Rex will not be able to recover due infrastructure hence they will all go back to VA, QF and even maybe JQ to save a few dollars for realisability
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