The true number of displaced (redundant) pilots
You obviously haven’t been inside a 737 then! Most GA aircraft are more advanced.
The aeroplane I fly when on vacation has twin radial engines, is a taildragger, and has 1950’s instruments and no autopilot. Its a piece of cake compared to my actual airline job. Clearly some people assume that a modern jet cockpit has Laz-e-boy seats and a snooze button.
Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just relaying information I've received from some very senior GA operators concerning the quality of candidates they've come across of late.
One thing that they did say is that out of all the Jet jockey airline pilots swinging for GA portions, the candidates that do stick out are ex cadets.
Even with minimal or even no GA experience it's the ex Cadets that have really shown ability and potential.
Apparently the rigorous selection and training regime cadets are known for gives them an advantage in learning the complexities of complex GA aircraft and they are being head hunted by GA operators looking for reliable, intelligent and enthusiastic operators
One thing that they did say is that out of all the Jet jockey airline pilots swinging for GA portions, the candidates that do stick out are ex cadets.
Even with minimal or even no GA experience it's the ex Cadets that have really shown ability and potential.
Apparently the rigorous selection and training regime cadets are known for gives them an advantage in learning the complexities of complex GA aircraft and they are being head hunted by GA operators looking for reliable, intelligent and enthusiastic operators
Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just relaying information I've received from some very senior GA operators concerning the quality of candidates they've come across of late.
One thing that they did say is that out of all the Jet jockey airline pilots swinging for GA portions, the candidates that do stick out are ex cadets.
Even with minimal or even no GA experience it's the ex Cadets that have really shown ability and potential.
Apparently the rigorous selection and training regime cadets are known for gives them an advantage in learning the complexities of complex GA aircraft and they are being head hunted by GA operators looking for reliable, intelligent and enthusiastic operators
One thing that they did say is that out of all the Jet jockey airline pilots swinging for GA portions, the candidates that do stick out are ex cadets.
Even with minimal or even no GA experience it's the ex Cadets that have really shown ability and potential.
Apparently the rigorous selection and training regime cadets are known for gives them an advantage in learning the complexities of complex GA aircraft and they are being head hunted by GA operators looking for reliable, intelligent and enthusiastic operators
Yes very funny, well done.
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Thanks. Needed the laugh 😂
I think you'll find that Airline pilots aren't particularly sought after for GA gigs even if they might of done it in a past life.
With modern aircraft being very easy to fly and the over reliance on automation, ex airline pilots have really struggled to adapt back to the complexity of operating light aircraft as a single pilot and many just don't make the cut.
Flying a heavy single or turbocharged piston twin is a strenuous exercise and sadly years of watching the autopilot have rendered most Airline pilots incapable of managing such aircraft again.
With modern aircraft being very easy to fly and the over reliance on automation, ex airline pilots have really struggled to adapt back to the complexity of operating light aircraft as a single pilot and many just don't make the cut.
Flying a heavy single or turbocharged piston twin is a strenuous exercise and sadly years of watching the autopilot have rendered most Airline pilots incapable of managing such aircraft again.
Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just relaying information I've received from some very senior GA operators concerning the quality of candidates they've come across of late.
One thing that they did say is that out of all the Jet jockey airline pilots swinging for GA portions, the candidates that do stick out are ex cadets.
Even with minimal or even no GA experience it's the ex Cadets that have really shown ability and potential.
Apparently the rigorous selection and training regime cadets are known for gives them an advantage in learning the complexities of complex GA aircraft and they are being head hunted by GA operators looking for reliable, intelligent and enthusiastic operators
One thing that they did say is that out of all the Jet jockey airline pilots swinging for GA portions, the candidates that do stick out are ex cadets.
Even with minimal or even no GA experience it's the ex Cadets that have really shown ability and potential.
Apparently the rigorous selection and training regime cadets are known for gives them an advantage in learning the complexities of complex GA aircraft and they are being head hunted by GA operators looking for reliable, intelligent and enthusiastic operators
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When I started training in 2006 all people could tell me was what a great time I was starting my career, jobs a plenty etc. then in 2007 the gfc hit and everything turned to ****e...
Plenty of people quit training but those of us willing to listen to the advice of the old boys got told to stick with it and the industry will sort itself out. They were right.
If someone who just started training asked me what to do I’d give them the above advice because unless you’ve got 90k sitting in the bank it’s gona be couple of years before you get that CPL anyway and in a few years there will be jobs a plenty again, especially in the entry level stuff that most of the guys getting shafted during the current downturn won’t be willing to take.
Plenty of people quit training but those of us willing to listen to the advice of the old boys got told to stick with it and the industry will sort itself out. They were right.
If someone who just started training asked me what to do I’d give them the above advice because unless you’ve got 90k sitting in the bank it’s gona be couple of years before you get that CPL anyway and in a few years there will be jobs a plenty again, especially in the entry level stuff that most of the guys getting shafted during the current downturn won’t be willing to take.
Cmon all,
Compylot has been trollin since ‘09 and doing a rather good job of it. Some here bit hook, line, sinker, rod, bait box and half the jetty.
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Compylot has been trollin since ‘09 and doing a rather good job of it. Some here bit hook, line, sinker, rod, bait box and half the jetty.
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Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just relaying information I've received from some very senior GA operators concerning the quality of candidates they've come across of late.
One thing that they did say is that out of all the Jet jockey airline pilots swinging for GA portions, the candidates that do stick out are ex cadets.
Even with minimal or even no GA experience it's the ex Cadets that have really shown ability and potential.
Apparently the rigorous selection and training regime cadets are known for gives them an advantage in learning the complexities of complex GA aircraft and they are being head hunted by GA operators looking for reliable, intelligent and enthusiastic operators
One thing that they did say is that out of all the Jet jockey airline pilots swinging for GA portions, the candidates that do stick out are ex cadets.
Even with minimal or even no GA experience it's the ex Cadets that have really shown ability and potential.
Apparently the rigorous selection and training regime cadets are known for gives them an advantage in learning the complexities of complex GA aircraft and they are being head hunted by GA operators looking for reliable, intelligent and enthusiastic operators
Sucked in......
When I started training in 2006 all people could tell me was what a great time I was starting my career, jobs a plenty etc. then in 2007 the gfc hit and everything turned to ****e...
Plenty of people quit training but those of us willing to listen to the advice of the old boys got told to stick with it and the industry will sort itself out. They were right.
Plenty of people quit training but those of us willing to listen to the advice of the old boys got told to stick with it and the industry will sort itself out. They were right.
In a way it’s a gamble, but so are many things in life. If this downturn causes a lot of current pilots to retire or leave the industry, and a lot of those who were planning to begin training in the next year now decline to, a quick turnaround in 18 months when a pilot who starts training today finishes their CPL will put them in a great position. Or it could be the opposite. Like I said it’s all a gamble. In a recession a lot of other professions and industries will be in the same boat. There’s really no such thing as a safe bet in any job these days
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I am involved in a minimal capacity in the recruitment process of a GA operator flying light multi engine piston and turbo-prop aircrafts. We have around 40 pilots and non is an ex airline pilot; and that is not for lack of candidates. We have 1 ex biz jet pilot and the rest are ex RAF or GA pilots.
The are two main reasons for that:
-it’s much harder to train airline pilots than it is to train ex RAF or GA pilots to fly our aircrafts in our environment
-Attitude; obviously the working environment for a GA operator is different than the environment of an airline and many ex airline pilots find it difficult or unwilling to adapt to the new environment.
We were actively recruiting when Flybe went bust and we received many applications from their former pilots. Some of them made it to the interview stage and out of all those invited only one got a job offer. They all struggled with the last part of the interview which is a flight in a multi engine piston aircraft.
We are not automatically rejecting all the airline pilots applications but it is considered a disadvantage.